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re: 680 million of Ohtani’s 700 mill contract is deferred until it’s over.

Posted on 12/11/23 at 11:48 pm to
Posted by DoctorWorm
Member since Jul 2021
830 posts
Posted on 12/11/23 at 11:48 pm to
making 680 million dollar bet he doesn't die in the next ten years

take the money
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
3894 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 12:12 am to

I know he's not the type but it would be wild if he did something stupid in year 10 that allowed the team to void the contract under a morals clause like Trevor Bauer. And I'm sure deferred money is treated differently but it's still funny to think about.

Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12763 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 5:22 am to
Based on this contract, I assume ohtani knew from day one he wanted to be a dodger and the entire free agency was simply working out the logistics of this deal.

I can't imagine any of the other teams had a legitimate shot at signing him.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 5:48 am to
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He makes an incredible amount of money outside of his baseball contract, I seriously doubt he's making these decisions without the assistance of some reputable business minds. He can certainly afford them.

No one is arguing he’s going to end up poor taking deferred compensation
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 5:52 am to
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He was never going to get $700 mil without deferring, so I'm not seeing the advantage for the Dodgers or disadvantage for him.

This is purely speculation on your part. Prior to his signing, a lot of people were predicting a contract of this value bc he’s two elite players in one.
Posted by phunkatron
Member since Jun 2019
1444 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:08 am to
Ever consider that they worked inflation into the numbers of the contract?

It's not like he's making a couple bucks more than then next highest paid player, it's nearly double.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10590 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:23 am to
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It's not like he's making a couple bucks more than then next highest paid player, it's nearly double.


Hmmmmm I wonder why that may be the case for a player like Ohtani…
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29176 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:32 am to
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Ever consider that they worked inflation into the numbers of the contract? It's not like he's making a couple bucks more than then next highest paid player, it's nearly double.


Basically this, Ohtani wouldn’t be getting $700 million if it wasn’t deferred.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
5603 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:50 am to
Well there is insurance, and he is in a few tv commercials here in the states, he is a God on Japan.
He is extremely wealthy he will not be living on skid row in-between games.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:21 am to
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With inflation, that $680m is not going to be worth that 10 years from now….it’ll be worth less. This is an idiotic financial move on his part no matter how you slice it


Jesus this thread is full of dumb dumbs.


Yall are acting like Ohtani just passed up 10 years at $70MM per right out of the gate. The Dodgers never would have offered that. The reason the total contract was $700MM was precisely because of the deferral option. If he wanted it now it would have been much less overall money.

Inflation is worked into the total contract. Do you think his agents and financial advisors forgot about that?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95383 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:44 am to
Gavin Newsome is likely sacrificing children right now
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1767 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:45 am to
And again, they're missing the forrest for the trees in ignoring the fast one the Dodgers have pulled here to have more money free now, and the fact that Ohtani unlike the typical pro athlete today ... that's the thing that's flying over people's heads, they're so used to mercenaries ... has bought into it because he wants to play in October. I actually admire him as a person even more.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:46 am to
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Gavin Newsome is likely sacrificing children right now


I’m sure it’ll get flak but he only pays CA taxes on like 60% of his baseball income anyway since you pay it in the state where you earn it typically.

Also it’s a proverbial drop in the bucket in CA.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95383 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:48 am to
Oh, it has nothing to do with this. I just think Gavin Newsome likes to kill children
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8584 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:55 am to
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you move and start taking your 401(k), you pay the tax where the money was earned?


No, of course not. But I don't think the Ohtani deal is structured in a 401k.

Just saying, there are ways that California can claw back that tax money. They aren't letting that go.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11917 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:49 am to
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What makes you think they didn't account for that by increasing the contract value in the first place?

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Considering his contract is worth $340 million more than second place all time.

Nah, all the GMs here think it's a bad contract
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:59 am to
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Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14224 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:18 am to
Once I learned that Ohtani cleared 40 million last season on endorsements alone it all made perfect sense. I suspect that that number will increase with a huge market team like the Dodgers. His fame is going to only increase now and the money is about to get stupid from everywhere.

The Dodgers can now keep big pieces around him. The guy is brilliant when you think about it.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115962 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:19 am to
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Once I learned that Ohtani cleared 40 million last season on endorsements alone it all made perfect sense. I suspect that that number will increase with a huge market team like the Dodgers. His fame is going to only increase now and the money is about to get stupid from everywhere.



If he is healthy and playing great for a franchise like the Dodgers, he will be in the upper upper upper echelon of highest amount of endorsements among professional athletes.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145174 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:46 am to
Giants fans are taking this well lmao

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