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re: 2025 Formula 1 Season Thread
Posted on 10/6/25 at 6:53 am to s14suspense
Posted on 10/6/25 at 6:53 am to s14suspense
Yeah, Louis' last lap he cut about 4 corners.
Alonso's post race radio was funny. He was ranting and begging for 7th.
Would have been fun to see that on TV
Alonso's post race radio was funny. He was ranting and begging for 7th.
Would have been fun to see that on TV
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:13 am to fightin tigers
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Alonso's post race radio was funny. He was ranting and begging for 7th.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:28 am to fightin tigers
We really need Piastri to go full villain arc.
This is some BS, the team celebrating on the podium without him.
This is some BS, the team celebrating on the podium without him.
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Maybe he didnt want to be there.
And no, his media duties don't prevent him from being there. Albon was at Sainz podium in Baku.
So either his PR handler is shite and didn't know the celebration was going to happen (was confirmed it was pre-planned). Or he didn't want to be there. Or McLaren told him not to go but later included him in the full team picture.
People are running with this story with no context or comment from anyone involved. Makes good rage bait though.
Per the race
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And no, his media duties don't prevent him from being there. Albon was at Sainz podium in Baku.
So either his PR handler is shite and didn't know the celebration was going to happen (was confirmed it was pre-planned). Or he didn't want to be there. Or McLaren told him not to go but later included him in the full team picture.
People are running with this story with no context or comment from anyone involved. Makes good rage bait though.
Per the race
LINK
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F1’s idea was for the McLaren constructors’ moment to focus only on the team members and their own success – so the drivers were not expected to be there.
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However, as the McLaren crew’s path crossed with the podium drivers near the cool-down room, Norris was dragged back out to join the impromptu moment.
Things had been put together so swiftly by F1 that not all McLaren team members made it – as can be seen by the contrast of how many were missing compared to the official shot that McLaren made proper arrangements for in the pitlane.
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 9:31 am
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:14 pm to fightin tigers
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Maybe he didnt want to be there. And no, his media duties don't prevent him from being there. Albon was at Sainz podium in Baku. So either his PR handler is shite and didn't know the celebration was going to happen (was confirmed it was pre-planned). Or he didn't want to be there. Or McLaren told him not to go but later included him in the full team picture. People are running with this story with no context or comment from anyone involved. Makes good rage bait though.
All sounds like clickbait when you read the article about post race protocols.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 5:05 am to MikeD
In doing some reading about how much Mclaren would have gotten paid this year, I came across this article from earlier this year. I learned WCC payouts also take into account the previous decade's worth of standings. I did not know this.
Ferrari gets 5-10% no matter what, which I knew.
20% is divvied up based on the previous decade's worth of performance:
The remaining 70-75% is paid out based on the current year:
Source
Ferrari gets 5-10% no matter what, which I knew.
20% is divvied up based on the previous decade's worth of performance:
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There is also understood to be a second column of payments that is taken off and accounts for a further 20% of the entire prize fund – so $253.2million in total.
This is awarded to recognise previous championship success for teams, and acts as an incentive to reward frontrunners over the long haul.
It is understood that a points system is used to calculate this – with teams finishing in the top three positions over the past 10 years awarded either one, two or three points for finishing either third, second or first in each campaign.
Going back over the previous decade (so from 2015 to 2024), five different teams have finished in the top three over that period. Using the points metric, the points can be divided out as below. And, splitting the bonus point based on the scores (so $4.22 million per point), can give us an estimate of how much extra each of these teams gets.
These calculations are below:
Mercedes (24 points) = $101.28million
Red Bull (16 points) = $67.52million
Ferrari (15 points) = $63.30 million
McLaren (4 points) = $16.88 million
Williams (1 point) = $4.22 million.
The remaining 70-75% is paid out based on the current year:
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With the first two payments taken out, the remaining 75% of the prize pot – which based on our calculations is $949.5 million - is then divided up among all the teams based on the 2024 finishing positions.
The split is fairly even across the grid and, while the exact percentages are not known, there is understood to be roughly a 0.9% difference between each position.
Using our $949.5 figure, we can then estimate how much each team gets based on their finishing position:
1st: McLaren - $132.9m
2nd: Ferrari - $124.4m
3rd: Red Bull - $115.8m
4th: Mercedes - $107.3m
5th: Aston Martin - $98.8m
6th: Alpine - $90.2m
7th: Haas - $82.6m
8th: Racing Bulls - $74.1m
9th: Williams - $65.5m 1
0th: Sauber - $57.9m
Source
Posted on 10/7/25 at 11:55 am to BottomlandBrew
That’s a lot of money. I knew Ferrari got some special compensation but I had no idea it was that much.
What might be more surprising is seeing that Williams has been getting a success bonus.
What might be more surprising is seeing that Williams has been getting a success bonus.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 4:16 pm to fightin tigers
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Would have been fun to see that on TV
The TV direction for this weekend's race, and really the whole season, has been really bad. They showed Kimi overtaking Leclerc about 10 minutes after it happened. It was so late they thought it was Kimi overtaking Lewis despite the screen showing that it happened 10 laps earlier. They didn't show Sainz carving his way up to 10th after he put on the softs. They only showed Lewis's brakes going out and not Alonso chasing him down on that last lap. It was really poorly put together this week.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 7:45 pm to Hogssmellgood
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The long-gestating streaming rights deal between Apple and Formula 1 is apparently reaching the finish line. In his newsletter, Puck’s John Ourand reports that the two sides have nearly finalized negotiations, with an eye to announce the partnership at the upcoming U.S. Grand Prix on 17-19 October, held in Austin.
Apparently, the protracted discussions relate to a dispute over the existence of the independent F1.TV streaming service in the United States. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Apple — who would be paying upwards of $150 million a year for the rights — wants streaming exclusivity and therefore F1.TV to be shuttered in the region.
However, the service is profitable for F1 and is widely beloved by hardcore fans, with seemingly low rates of cannibalisation compared to the audience that (up to now) watched on ESPN. Apparently, the discussion on this point has gone back and forward between the parties a few times, which explains why it is taken so long for the deal to be signed on the dotted line.
It’s also currently unclear what the outcome of the negotiations were, as far as F1.TV’s future in the United States is concerned. (In some international markets, F1.TV is similarly unavailable due to deals with local rights holders.)
FML. Apple is going to kill F1TV in the US, and F1TV doesn't work with a VPN.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 8:04 pm to BottomlandBrew
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FML. Apple is going to kill F1TV in the US, and F1TV doesn't work with a VPN.
Everytime I have to think about having to add yet another subscription for the entire fricking year almost to either Apple or F1TV I get irrationally pissed off. Another example of massive corporate entities fricking over fans.
Realistically it'll be the end of the sport for me because I'm not handing over anymore money.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 6:24 am to BottomlandBrew
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FML. Apple is going to kill F1TV in the US, and F1TV doesn't work with a VPN.
Yup, F1 TV is a great product... But the fact that F1 is going to allow a shitty, closed off product to own the rights in the US is dumbfounding.
I'd imagine lots of people aren't going to sign up for AppleTV and their $14 a month just to get F1. I certainly won't.
For the good of the sport, it should remain tied with an OTA broadcast entity.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:17 am to Lsut81
AppleTV has some decent shows at least.
i mean this entire deal is garbage and greed of course, but, if you have to bite the bullet... ill admit that appleTV has some quality offerings.
i mean this entire deal is garbage and greed of course, but, if you have to bite the bullet... ill admit that appleTV has some quality offerings.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:41 am to jefforize
Yeah, Apple does put out some good stuff at least. They will now put out F1 which may cost eyeballs but make more money. They don't do this stuff in a vacuum.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:57 am to XenScott
To me, it would seem like sponsors would put pressure on Liberty to keep it on ESPN. I guess that's part of the equation Liberty has to balance.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:48 am to BottomlandBrew
Won't be the first time FOM lost track of what makes them money vs what they think will continue to make them money.
Im sure someone will eventually show the growth/collapse of viewership in Europe when F1 decided to go with Sky and go behind a paywall.
Some exec probably has the view that Netflix, a pay service, is what caused the current boom, that viewers will follow.
Im sure someone will eventually show the growth/collapse of viewership in Europe when F1 decided to go with Sky and go behind a paywall.
Some exec probably has the view that Netflix, a pay service, is what caused the current boom, that viewers will follow.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 11:58 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:06 pm to fightin tigers
Irrespective of profitability from viewership (the idea that you can make more money with fewer paid viewers vs a greater number of viewers on conventional TV/cable), I feel like having fewer viewers and exposing fewer casual viewers to F1 in the US by putting it behind a paywall will affect the viability of having three F1 races in the US. I was already skeptical of sustaining three races--when Las Vegas was announced I thought Miami wouldn't last. I was wrong about Miami but now I'm wondering if Las Vegas is vulnerable. I think F1 needs a constant influx of new viewers to sustain three US races, and I believe DTS won't be able to sustain the intense growth in interest that the first few seasons cultivated. The constant fake drama got old real fast.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:17 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
DTS is/was just a blip. No way the popularity was ever going to hang around.
Like you said, making a niche sport by hiding the races won't help the audience. Look at IRL having to hunt for their races.
Like you said, making a niche sport by hiding the races won't help the audience. Look at IRL having to hunt for their races.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:29 pm to fightin tigers
I already have appleTV so next season I will probably just spend what I was gonna spend on F1TV to get the package added to my account.
But the first time they cut away from live action on the track to show a commercial I will be done with it.
But the first time they cut away from live action on the track to show a commercial I will be done with it.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:35 pm to MississippiLebowski
Well, Fox is putting all IndyCar races on the big network next season, so we can have a semi-direct comparison.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:36 pm to MississippiLebowski
The only way I'm getting AppleTV is if Apple somehow buys Multiviewer and makes it part of the F1 deal. I have become spoiled with Multiviewer and loathe to go back to regular broadcast.
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