re: 2024 Formula 1 season Thread

Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82

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Posted on 7/28/24 at 3:00 pm to sorantable

Danny has quite a bounce in his step at the end.

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Posted by auisssa

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Posted on 7/28/24 at 3:07 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82

Posted by bonstonker

Member since Jan 2008

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Posted on 7/28/24 at 3:09 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82

quote:
Typical Danny fan analysis. It's as if all the results don't count.

Well perez earlier results don't count,so why the hell should yuki and ric count.

quote:
Why is your time box the last 6 races

Well I'm not going to replace someone who started the year well and their form has tailed off with someone who started the year well and has been outperformed by their teammate the last 6 weeks and crashed twice just like perez.
Yeah that makes sense

quote:
Danny was handed a raw deal by his team

Yeah no shite.
He was faster in practice and qualifying, didn't put his car into the barrier like perez in qualifying and faster on race day.

Posted by BuckyCheese

Member since Jan 2015

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Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:06 pm to sorantable

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I cannot overstate how much I hate this.

One team per ownership group should be the rule.

RB owning two teams is ridiculous and I can't believe it has been allowed for so long.

Posted by BuckyCheese

Member since Jan 2015

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Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:14 pm to BuckyCheese

quote:
Meanwhile, Perez blamed a lack of power on the straights, traffic, tyres, strategy and even the balance of the car for his poor performance.
[...]
This is the last time I will speak about the future, so just to make it clear for everyone, I will not be speaking anymore. I will not answer any more questions about the future.”

Because he has no future.

Posted by s14suspense

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Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:33 pm to BuckyCheese

Jesus, thanks for the quote.

Funny to read that Merc were probably being cheeky leaving too much fuel in for final weigh in.

Crazy ending to that race. Was real surprised coming back to this thread a few hours later and seeing the shite show.

Posted by Lsut81

Member since Jun 2005

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Posted on 7/28/24 at 5:49 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82

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It's time to put in your prediction on how the Red Bull driver shuffle shakes out.

Checo out
Danny in
Liam in VCARB
Sainz signed for 2025

Posted by MississippiLebowski

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Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:22 pm to Lsut81

I’m going option C, Danny back in the Red Bull, Perez out of F1

Posted by MikeD

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Posted on 7/28/24 at 9:49 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82

Prediction C

Posted by BottomlandBrew

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Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:31 am to MikeD

Going back to Russell's DQ, it got me thinking about weight. So, fuel is not calculated in the final weigh-in, but tires are? This doesn't make sense to me. Both items are "consumable." To me, it would make sense to weigh the driver + car without fuel and tires included in that number. I don't see why a team should be penalized for gambling on tire deg and fuel consumption. As long as you get to inspection after the race with enough fuel for a sample and enough weight on the car without spec tires, then you should be good. Change my mind.

Posted by barry

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Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:34 am to TouchedTheAxeIn82

My whole thing with Yuki is that he can be a bit of a wild card. Being the #2 driver is more than just speed. I don’t know if they can trust him to not go rogue, get upset, or just piss off max.

Posted by barry

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Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:37 am to BottomlandBrew

This tyre myth excuse is bullshite. No one in history has ever missed weight because of tires. You don’t actually lose that much weight from the tires anyway. Everyone else managed to hit weight doing it this way and fuel weight varies way more than tire loss from deg

Posted by Lsut81

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Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:51 am to barry

I've never really thought about weight or looked into it.

So when is the car weighed?

Pre-Quali?
Post-Quali?
Pre-Race?

What is the reference point and what could have changed between those two points aside from removing components?

Posted by s14suspense

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Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:04 am to BottomlandBrew

Completely agree with you about the fact that they’re consumables and you shouldn’t be able to miss weight because of them but I assume teams would do even more sketchy things if they knew they had a free pass with their tires. I could see them doing rolling burnouts down to the belts if they knew they could get their full fat heavy tires on afterwards.
I saw some math that it would easily add the 1.5 kg if they had picked up chunky rubber on the cooldown lap like they normally do.
Something like just 1/10th of an inch of extra rubber on each tire would have done it.

Posted by Diseasefreeforall

Member since Oct 2012

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Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:15 am to barry

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This tyre myth excuse is bullshite. No one in history has ever missed weight because of tires.

It's rare but it has happened before, at Hungary to Kubica in 2006 when his car was 2 kg underweight after excessive rubber loss from wet-weather tires.

The Merc trackside engineer says they don't know what caused the problem but it that a "contributing factor" could be tire degradation, although obviously the team seemingly trying to monkey with the fuel drainage seems suspicious.

F1 at SI

This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 9:18 am