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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:33 pm to
What the curse with Nico and selfies that I saw a clip from SkySports about?

Fans were asking him to take a selfie with Max ahead of Singapore... They then went on to talk about some curse and him posting something about Ferrari prior to last week.

Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 9/7/23 at 1:34 pm to
Whoever he chooses to win he usually takes a selfie with.

And they inevitably lose.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 4:12 pm to
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But there is hope on the horizon. Haas has been working on a major upgrade for two months now, which should be ready by the home game in Austin. Team boss Guenther Steiner already announced it in Zandvoort: "We will be heavily modifying the car to better understand which direction we have to go next year."

The concept of the Haas VF-23 is closely based on the Ferrari. This is not surprising, as the US racing team buys the majority of the parts under the fairing from Ferrari. This defines the basic architecture of the car. The Haas technicians under Simone Resta have now realized that this concept has reached a dead end. “No matter what we do, we can’t find a lap time anymore,” regrets Steiner.

The high and wide side boxes with the cooling outlets on the top dilute the so-called “downwash” principle. The wishbones of the rear suspension stand in the way of the flow. This makes it more difficult to seal the underbody against the turbulence of the rear wheels and limits the diffuser effect. Ferrari has the same problem. The more downforce you add in theory, the further away reality becomes from the wind tunnel data.

While Ferrari trusts its simulation tools and is only making minor retouches to its SF-23 this year, Haas wants to know exactly. The expansion stage planned for Austin deserves the name B version. The converted Haas will look more like a Red Bull on the outside. The underbody, side pods and engine cover adopt elements from the fastest car in the field.

Because the chassis, transmission, radiator installation and suspension must remain the same, Haas engineers can only implement part of what they plan for 2024. The basic architecture of the car imposes certain compromises. But the team has to take this risk. “The risk would be even greater if we only discovered in Bahrain in 2024 that something was wrong with our new path,” confirms Steiner.

Haas wants to collect data for the next season and insights for the VF-24 in the last five Grands Prix of the season. Even if the step initially goes sideways. Such a big step rarely works right away.

But the technicians can already see that it offers significantly more potential than the current car. "McLaren has shown that you can make a big leap with a change of concept. It's no use just adding new parts to your existing car and still standing still," Steiner encourages himself and his team.

A radical step will follow in 2024. Then Haas will also build a new chassis and get the new transmission from Ferrari. Both components are heavily tailored on the underside based on the Red Bull model in order to have more aerodynamic freedom in the air flow above and below the base plate. The suspensions are then also adapted to this concept. It helps that Ferrari will be heading in the same direction.
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/haas-upgrade-austin-b-version-usa-red-bull-konzept/
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 4:35 pm to
If HAAS really wants to make inroads in the States, they need a winning American driver, such as touchedtheaxein82, Herta, or Kirkwood.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 9/8/23 at 5:01 pm to
Herta is vastly overrated.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
near the Apple spaceship
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/8/23 at 5:02 pm to
Oh I just found out that on Virgin Galactic Flight 03 this morning, one of the passengers was none other than Adrian Reynard.

cbsnews.com/news/virgin-galactic-launches-third-suborbital-space-tourist-flight/

Reynard produced the dominant mid/late 90s IndyCar chassis during the heyday of CART.

Later Reynard and Craig Pollock partnered with British American Tobacco to buy the assets of Tyrell and form the BAR F1 team, which later became Honda, then Brawn, then Mercedes.

On his web site, Reynard says that he was the very first person to sign up as an astronaut with Virgin Galactic in 2004. A former boss of mine also was one of the 'founders', the first 100 people to sign up. He purchased four tickets in 2004 and now it's 19 years later. I need to ask him if his flight is scheduled yet. I will go down to New Mexico and watch his flight.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51732 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 12:24 pm to
COTA must have had some problems with selling General Admission tickets this year. Was in Costco. They must have had close to 1000 of these.



Online, a 3 day GA ticket is going for $475 + Fees and Tax from Ticketmaster. That's the official price.

On SeatGeek, they are available as low as $340. We are over a month out and prices are already lower that when they were first announced. Probably going to see those come down a lot more. I think maybe COTA overpriced them a bit this year.

Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 1:22 pm to
The promoter clarified that they have sold the tickets at Costco in the past, but this is the first time they have gotten coverage.

Also, those are general admission tix. COTA oversells those and it contributes to a terrible GA experience.
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
45895 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:06 pm to
A change made to the Singapore street circuit.

chicane changed to a straight

Posted by Rendevoustavern
Member since May 2018
1912 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:31 pm to
Not a fan of this change, that chicane has provided some drama as opposed to what will be 4 flat out straights.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:18 pm to
Just a temporary change. There is construction on the waterfront.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:29 pm to
Was in Vegas this past weekend and saw the all the track construction going on. Initial thoughts were I have no idea how they will have all that finished by the time the race gets there. The massive paddock is maybe 1/4 of the way built and nobody was working on it the 4 days I was there.

Pretty much every Uber driver said they aren't expecting them to have everything finished. They obviously will have the important stuff done but a lot of people I talked to said that they aren't expecting all of the stadium/stands to be complete. One Uber driver said he is going on vacation that week because of the race Apparently the race is going to severely jack up traffic for almost 3 weeks, not just the race week.

I will say, the room we stayed in at the Virgin would have been a pretty sweet place to stay at during the race. No telling what the price would be.

Non F1 related, the sphere is pretty awesome.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
7361 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

No telling what the price would be.


Pretty easy to tell.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51395 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

Not a fan of this change, that chicane has provided some drama as opposed to what will be 4 flat out straights.



That chicane sucks arse, glad its gone
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33638 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Max Verstappen on Toto Wolff’s Wikipedia statement regarding his 10 win streak:

“They had a bad race in Monza, so he was probably still disappointed about that. It sometimes seems as if he is an employee of our team, but fortunately that is not the case”
Posted by 225rumpshaker
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
12787 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:22 am to


Saw a different less PG edit floating around the internets though

quote:

"No, I'm not disappointed in that," Verstappen said about Wolff's comments ahead of this weekend's Singapore Grand Prix.

"I mean they had a pretty shite race, so probably he was still pissed off with their performance," added Verstappen, referring to the Italian Grand Prix where Mercedes pair George Russell and Lewis Hamilton finished fifth and sixth.
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 10:23 am
Posted by TexasTiger33
United States of America
Member since Feb 2022
16128 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:31 am to
lulz
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28513 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:33 am to
What were Toto's comments?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:58 am to
Probably the "The record for Wikipedia and doesn't matter"
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7432 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Pretty much every Uber driver said they aren't expecting them to have everything finished. They obviously will have the important stuff done but a lot of people I talked to said that they aren't expecting all of the stadium/stands to be complete.


There's a reason they are uber drivers and not engineers, project managers, etc.
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