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re: Will mortgage rate ever go back down?

Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:30 am to
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25399 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:30 am to
Yes. Eventually.

But I wouldn’t hold your breath for a return to 3% fixed. You might see it again but also may be too old to take advantage. That’s probably a ways off.

5-8% is probably the range we’ll stick with for a while.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 8:44 am
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10993 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:08 am to
Dallas Ft. Worth just saw its first price decline since 2013. Yet people continue to move there en masse.

It’s local as always, but cooling.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37164 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:46 am to
After years of the fed artitifically impacting rates to be lower, they are now artificially impacting rates to be higher. I think eventually, this will moderate and rates will come down to around 5-6. I don't know if the fed has the capacity to artificially lower then back to 2-3 again anytime soon.

Prices won't come down until people can no longer get a mortgage. And at that point, you will see large corporate buyers step in and buy more property, keeping prices high.

Sakes of new construction in my area have frozen. There's a lot of money tied up in those houses... they were expensive to build. But the builders aren't lowering prices. I guess they have the cash to float them for now.
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3663 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Prices won't come down until people can no longer get a mortgage


But instead of letting things regulate themselves, 40 year mortgages will now be a thing.

I think there is a ton of pent up demand for people who would move up, but aren't willing to give up their good rates AND pay 50% more just to move into the same basic house they already have....Its pretty wild right now.
Posted by JackDempsey
Lake Charles
Member since May 2023
289 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:01 pm to
I bought my first house in 1982 or 1983 I believe. The interest rate was 12%.
The house was a new 3 bedroom, 2 bath in south LC. Nothing fancy, basic with a 2 car garage for $54,000
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17727 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:02 pm to
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Dallas Ft. Worth just saw its first price decline since 2013


A smidgeon. Most areas are still incredibly strong.

I should have bought a house I couldn't afford back in May 2022 at 3.8%.

Getting into our next house size up is going to be a disaster. The only way its doable is if the market tanks and that will screw me on selling my current house.

Wild world we're living in.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3814 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:06 pm to
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They will come down after the crash.



How will that happen?

Nearly 70% of the country either owns their home out right or has greater than 50% equity.

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37164 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

I think there is a ton of pent up demand for people who would move up, but aren't willing to give up their good rates AND pay 50% more just to move into the same basic house they already have....Its pretty wild right now.


I'm one of them. I paid $170K 8 years ago and have refinanced into a sub-3 rate. I owe about $100K now. I could easily sell for $300K net of costs and walk away with $200K cash.

But any house I would want to move up into, would cost at least $400K, so I'd be borrowing at least $200K, at double (or more) the rate.

So I'm staying put.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11314 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

People in the 70's and 80's would have loved to refinance to current rates.


My dad loves to tell me how his interest rate was 18% when my parents built in 1983.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37164 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 12:11 pm to
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My dad loves to tell me how his interest rate was 18% when my parents built in 1983.


And leave out the fact that the house cost $60K to buld.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50369 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

It seems like now isn’t the time to buy, but maybe it is.



The beautiful thing about debt is you can always refinance it, so you have downside protection by having a fixed rate, and upside benefit.

Waiting for rates to go down is a dangerous game, you could be stuck waiting forever.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25806 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

quote:
My dad loves to tell me how his interest rate was 18% when my parents built in 1983.


And leave out the fact that the house cost $60K to buld.

On a gross income of $323/week.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75278 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 4:25 pm to
You’d think the very last two states to see any dip in prices would be Texas and Florida with the sheer number of people moving there daily it seems inventory won’t be catching up any time soon.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14495 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

You’d think the very last two states to see any dip in prices would be Texas and Florida with the sheer number of people moving there daily it seems inventory won’t be catching up any time soon.

Agree not seeing any dips in this area of Fl.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1978 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:43 am to
saw someone on twitter say part of the Debt ceiling deal was to lock in current interest rates through 2025
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
49042 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:58 am to
Haven't heard that
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
35955 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:15 am to
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Nearly 70% of the country either owns their home out right or has greater than 50% equity.


Where are you pulling these numbers from?
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