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Will mortgage rate ever go back down?

Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:24 pm
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11900 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:24 pm
I know we have some very smart market people here.

Is this about where things are going to stay going forward, or will they come down from 6-7?

It seems like now isn’t the time to buy, but maybe it is.
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
10911 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:27 pm to
Nobody knows baw. I hope they go down soon. I need to move for work soon and have a 3.125 on my current home.
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1542 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:31 pm to
NOPE. THEY WILL NEVER COME DOWN! EVER!!

In reality, no one knows. MOst people "think" they will settle around 5-6 eventually.

I just bought 3 acres of land for my future homestead and don't care about rates until time to build in about 24 months. Currently sitting on 3.125 rate with current home.

Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12324 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:33 pm to
No one really knows. My personal prediction is that we stay in this range. The price of houses are going to start slowing down due to high cost of living and the government fighting inflation and keeping rates high. I stayed at a holiday inn last night so trust me.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37597 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

Nobody knows baw. I hope they go down soon. I need to move for work soon and have a 3.125 on my current home.


Yep

We are sitting on a 3.25% rate on our house. It’ll only appreciate in value, but we are looking to build and for it to be bigger
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18013 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:35 pm to
probably a safe guess that we wont be seeing 2% rates again for many years.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37597 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

probably a safe guess that we wont be seeing 2% rates again for many years


We don’t even need that

We just need building costs to go down. But $60,000 millionaires are coughing up the money to live in debt the rest of their lives just to post their new house pictures on the internet
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19612 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:37 pm to
If prices would act in a decent inverse relation I wouldn't give a shite what interest rates were. The problem is rates and prices are both still going up.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16217 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

Will mortgage rate ever go back down?


Maybe, but it will probably be a long time before we see 3% again. People in the 70's and 80's would have loved to refinance to current rates.


This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 3:43 pm
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1425 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 3:44 pm to
No one knows. If you can afford the note, won't be house poor and the house is what you really want then maybe the time is right.

If rates go down 1%+, then you refinance. If they go up then you'll be happy that you bought now.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7903 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 4:24 pm to
The reality is that the 6 to 7% rates are close to normal if you look back 50 years or so. These last few years of 2.5% to 4% are an anomaly.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80784 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 4:27 pm to
2.5%-4% was outside of the norm. 5-7% is historically low. I'd venture to guess we bounce in this 5-7% range for a very long time.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119263 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 5:05 pm to
I'm at 2.25% and I really want to move. The only way it makes sense is to sell and buy/build without another mortgage.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27627 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 5:09 pm to
They will come down after the crash.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
16167 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

I need to move for work soon and have a 3.125 on my current home.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
16167 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 5:16 pm to
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The problem is rates and prices are both still going up.

Wont be fixed until there is some sort of cap on private equity buying single family homes.

All this environment is doing is weeding out competition for all cash buyers.
This post was edited on 5/30/23 at 5:17 pm
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25955 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

Nobody knows baw. I hope they go down soon. I need to move for work soon and have a 3.125 on my current home.


Can you owner finance to a new buyer at the market rate? I’m at 2.5% and don’t want to sell but also don’t want to live in Louisiana forever.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6457 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 6:13 pm to
My father in law financed his first house at 14.5%!

It was 1.25x his household income.

I close on a new construction home in 11 days. In the end I can't hold off any longer due to family growth, but I'm still buying what I can afford.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51699 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:19 pm to
They will likely come down at some point, no idea when though.

Prior to all this debt deal bullshite, the thinking was they would drop back below 5% sometime over the next year or two. Now that Congress may simply "suspend" the debt ceiling until 01/2025?

The Fed has raised rates to attempt to fight off inflation from too much money being shoved into the system (Stimmy checks, PPP, etc) and now Congress is celebrating setting $1.375T as the deficit floor for at least the next budget (if not more).

Does that mean inflation will continue to be "sticky" over the next year (remaining above the desired 2%)? If so, does the Fed just sit at pausing or do they raise rates again?

With this level of dysfunction, it's anyone's guess.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75225 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:42 pm to
The best time to buy real estate is 20 years ago. The second best time is now.
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