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Why is stock market going up when there is so much bad news? Please help
Posted on 6/2/22 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 6/2/22 at 8:36 pm
Why is stock market going up when there is so much bad news?
Gas prices continue to rise
Food prices continue to rise
Supply chain issues
Unemployment numbers were not good
Consumer price index continue to rise
Manufacturing numbers are not good
Car sales are down
Housing market is down
CEO confidence index is at the lowest it has ever been.
Inflation is here, recession might be coming
Russia Ukraine war
Biden administration
Is the stock market being pushed up by day traders or those bulls playing with the market?
If you are in it for the long haul, are you changing your thinking from being mostly in cash and going more for equities.
What is going on? Do you think we are headed for a bear market? Do you think we reached the lows of the stock market and headed up for good?
Gas prices continue to rise
Food prices continue to rise
Supply chain issues
Unemployment numbers were not good
Consumer price index continue to rise
Manufacturing numbers are not good
Car sales are down
Housing market is down
CEO confidence index is at the lowest it has ever been.
Inflation is here, recession might be coming
Russia Ukraine war
Biden administration
Is the stock market being pushed up by day traders or those bulls playing with the market?
If you are in it for the long haul, are you changing your thinking from being mostly in cash and going more for equities.
What is going on? Do you think we are headed for a bear market? Do you think we reached the lows of the stock market and headed up for good?
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 6/2/22 at 8:58 pm to davidsheroes
All of that bad news means the Fed is less likely to continue hiking rates which means stocks go up
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:04 pm to davidsheroes
Lot of cash sitting on the sidelines who decided to get in at low prices too. I did that some today.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:16 pm to davidsheroes
Is the NASDAQ not down 20% YTD in this scenario?
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:17 pm to davidsheroes
Stock market is a leading indicator, not a lagging indicator. There's your answer.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:20 pm to davidsheroes
You sound like you are about to catch a case of FOMO.
Don’t be lured into it. The CEO of the biggest bank in the USA says a “hurricane” is coming and he is not a fear monger. Morgan Stanley says S&P500 about 3400 around mid-August.
Nobody wants the music to stop so they keep dancing and ignoring the problems and hoping they will go away. Fairly common human trait. But the problems won’t go away, the music will stop, and then a sudden rush for the exit will happen.
It’s wishful thinking the Feds won’t raise interest rates like they said. That is baring some black swan event that changes the beat.
Don’t be lured into it. The CEO of the biggest bank in the USA says a “hurricane” is coming and he is not a fear monger. Morgan Stanley says S&P500 about 3400 around mid-August.
Nobody wants the music to stop so they keep dancing and ignoring the problems and hoping they will go away. Fairly common human trait. But the problems won’t go away, the music will stop, and then a sudden rush for the exit will happen.
It’s wishful thinking the Feds won’t raise interest rates like they said. That is baring some black swan event that changes the beat.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:25 pm to davidsheroes
Just don’t worry about it if you aren’t trading.
Stock market is forward looking so the current news cycle is not the primary driver.
Stock market is forward looking so the current news cycle is not the primary driver.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:43 pm to davidsheroes
quote:
Why is stock market going up when there is so much bad news?
Warren Buffet is why.
"buy when everyone is selling and sell when everyone is buying"
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:49 pm to davidsheroes
quote:
Is the stock market being pushed up by day traders or those bulls playing with the market?
It's a bear market rally. They happen up to ~15% or more. But have no fear this shite is going to goblin town shortly.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:53 pm to davidsheroes
Nothing goes straight up or down. Relief rally. Low volume one. Wont last. but who cares. Just keep DCA.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:57 pm to davidsheroes
Wait for it………
People are idiots. They want things to be better when clearly they are not. When Elon Musk can send a Tweet and cause the market to rally you know it’s not on sound footing.
People are idiots. They want things to be better when clearly they are not. When Elon Musk can send a Tweet and cause the market to rally you know it’s not on sound footing.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:58 pm to davidsheroes
That’s all old news and has already been accounted for during the recent 8 week record decline.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 10:53 pm to davidsheroes
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Do you think we reached the lows of the stock market and headed up for good?
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headed up for good?
Up forever and ever?!?
Listen to most of the advice in this thread, particularly about continuing to DCA and not worry about what the market is doing on a daily basis.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 7:36 am to saintforlife1
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Stock market is a leading indicator
More like a guess and probably not that educated of one considering how unprecedented the lead-up to this moment in time has been with the last decade of monetary policy (which the Fed may still be a little drunk on) and lasting effects of the extreme covid response measures.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 8:23 am to davidsheroes
May unemployment of 3.5% is very good.
US is a job creation machine, granted lots of hospitality (going into summer) but not a recession tea leaf.
Corp reported Q2 profits will be interesting.
Aggregating a single economic picture in this modern US economy with many dynamic underlying events is challenging. Keep an eye on leading pulse indicators at the micro. Be skeptical of the macro accuracy.
US is a job creation machine, granted lots of hospitality (going into summer) but not a recession tea leaf.
Corp reported Q2 profits will be interesting.
Aggregating a single economic picture in this modern US economy with many dynamic underlying events is challenging. Keep an eye on leading pulse indicators at the micro. Be skeptical of the macro accuracy.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 8:24 am to davidsheroes
quote:
Why is stock market going up when there is so much bad news?
Stocks aren't an earnings discounting mechanism because of retirement flows. The only thing that will make them go down is a drop in labor participation or unemployment which decreases national income.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 8:52 am to Turf Taint
The question seems to be whether the Fed can thread the needle on inflation or will they underestimate it again and be forced to deliver a bigger jolt. Maybe not Volcker-esque but still larger than anticipated
Posted on 6/3/22 at 11:14 am to davidsheroes
Stock market trades today based on what traders will happen in future.
If stocks are going up, traders are thinking the future will be less crappy than today. Still crappy perhaps, but less crappy.
If stocks are going up, traders are thinking the future will be less crappy than today. Still crappy perhaps, but less crappy.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 1:10 pm to davidsheroes
Hope today wasn’t too confusing for you. Pretty good news day, but market is down.
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