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re: Why does the stock market keep going up despite bad news everywhere?

Posted on 9/9/22 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
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Posted on 9/9/22 at 3:57 pm to
The market is looking for signs that the economy is slowing down which would mean that rates can stop being increased which means money comes back into the market
Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 9/9/22 at 3:57 pm to
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Posted by Street Hawk



I don't know why any bothers to respond to this guy, considering he never comes back into threads.

Mr. Drive-by Thread Starter
Posted by TigerIron
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Posted on 9/9/22 at 3:57 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/4/22 at 11:22 am
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
16087 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 4:07 pm to
We need Hussss in here to tell us if he is buying or selling. That should give us direction as to where the market is going over the next few weeks. My guess is he bought puts probably mid week
This post was edited on 9/9/22 at 4:09 pm
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/9/22 at 4:12 pm to
Uh, the S&P is off about 20% ytd.
This post was edited on 9/9/22 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 9/9/22 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 9/9/22 at 4:46 pm to
Its no different than any other bear market rally. Too many investors get bearish. They go short/buy puts and have to cover their positions on days like this where the market rallies.

Which is why it is always "Stairs up - Elevator down"

Also, the more a stock has been beaten down, the more it will rally on days like this. Which is why you are seeing the dogshit growth stocks with no revenue outperform value, utilities, and staples. Because the drawdowns in those sectors haven't been near as severe.
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
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Posted on 9/9/22 at 5:05 pm to
It's not up.
Posted by Realityintheface
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 9/9/22 at 5:31 pm to
You’re trying to make sense of the market with 3 highly volatile stocks on 1 days price action?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59167 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 5:43 pm to
These people don’t even see the real picture

They’re here complaining about the trivial stock market and not fighting back against the black elves on tv
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177284 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 5:52 pm to
What's do you mean going up? Dow down 12% in 2022.
This post was edited on 9/9/22 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
59215 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 6:24 pm to
I think he must have meant for the last five days.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
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Posted on 9/9/22 at 6:25 pm to
Because the bad news has already caused a 20% drop and at some point it has to turn around.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12295 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 7:19 pm to
More investors. Kids are investing more than ever, its cool.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64356 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 8:28 pm to
Dead cat bounce.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 9/9/22 at 8:56 pm to
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coal mine where you and the boss were like family and you worked hard and got to go get drunk at the bowling alley after an 8 hour shift and when you turned 55 you’d get to retire


Yeah it was great that those coal miners probably died by age 60.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 12:19 am to
I learned a long time ago that the stock market is like poker. There is some skill involved…but also a lot of luck and psychology. If you stay out of the stock market just because logic tells you to you leave a lot of money on the table.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53712 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 4:37 am to
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It always goes up if you zoom out.


As long as they print money
Posted by JimMorrison
The Peninsula
Member since May 2012
20747 posts
Posted on 9/10/22 at 7:28 am to
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As long as they print money


True. Granted there's been a great deal of technological progress over the past 14 years, but the parabolic growth was made possible by QE.

Zooming out and seeing even more ridiculous growth since COVID would make any reasonable investor cautious considering the environment we're in and heading to in the future.

Best case is the market enters a long period of consolidation from these levels to weather the earnings deterioration that will happen in the next few quarters. Otherwise, mean reversion happens and valuations will correct further with a probable bottom in 2023.



Trading wise, the volatility is great, but if you're an investor, be prepared for further losses. The market has been coddled by QE for a long time and even in the face of a hawkish Fed and tightening cycle, the equities market continues to speculate that the Fed will pivot and start lowering rates. Dangerous game for any bullish investor right now.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 9/10/22 at 12:15 pm to
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True. Granted there's been a great deal of technological progress over the past 14 years, but the parabolic growth was made possible by QE.




I think the only thing missing from this is a picture of what that QE actually looks like.



That's ~$8T of injections over the course of 14 years, with almost half of that occurring in that spike from ~Feb 3, 2020 to June 8, 2020 (ie: in only 4 months).
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