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re: What’s a great net worth by 45?
Posted on 8/7/23 at 12:03 pm to kennypowers
Posted on 8/7/23 at 12:03 pm to kennypowers
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Real talk for the average American?
The OP's question was "what's a great NW?" not average. You're setting bar too low if you say any positive NW by 45 is "great."
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 8/7/23 at 12:08 pm to Sir Saint
quote:Thanks for this (and great 1st post). I thought you had to be 55 to do it, but nope! Good to know!
If you decide to pull the plug on working before age 59.5, you can set up a SEPP plan to access your 401k money without the 10% penalty.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:10 pm to RoyalWe
quote:
Thanks for this (and great 1st post). I thought you had to be 55 to do it, but nope! Good to know!
He is referring to 72(t) withdrawals: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rule72t.asp
Another way to access 401k/IRA assets is to use a Roth conversion ladder. This allows you to avoid penalty but you have to wait 5 years (per conversion) before withdrawing it.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:58 pm to turkish
I am one year away for m a 60y old coast fire
Posted on 8/7/23 at 2:43 pm to thelawnwranglers
I think it's all relative to what kind of life you want to lead (as has been stated above). I'll be 40 this week, my wife is 35 (no pics) and our net worth is right around $500,000 right now. I feel like we lead a pretty nice life, we go on a beach vacation each year, we go out for a nice dinner a few times a month, don't have to worry about day to day money. If our net worth was double that, I doubt our lifestyle would be much different.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 2:50 pm to Covingtontiger77
People saying "I'm at $XX net worth at XX years old" - if married, are you talking household net worth or are you taking your household and dividing it in half to get your individual net worth? Just curious how its being measured here
Posted on 8/7/23 at 4:23 pm to TigerTatorTots
I go by my wife and I together. We share everything so it’s just easier to say the combined number.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 5:20 pm to thelawnwranglers
I hit my coast fire # last year at 34. No kids, not married.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 6:22 pm to TigerTatorTots
Combined. It’s all one thing now. Any calculations for retirement are based off what we both need so investments based on the same.
Quick plugs using that Coast calculator is we are right on target for retiring at 45. Too many unknowns between now and then but I know the process is working.
Quick plugs using that Coast calculator is we are right on target for retiring at 45. Too many unknowns between now and then but I know the process is working.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 6:42 pm to TheOcean
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I hit my coast fire # last year at 34. No kids, not married.
What is retirement age
Posted on 8/7/23 at 7:14 pm to thelawnwranglers
I'm actually at chubby fire now. Hoping to hit fat fire by 40, but likely going to ramp things down in the next year or two. Life's too damn short to work all the time
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:21 pm to TheOcean
What kind of annual expenses are you planning for in retirement? I’m basing mine off $100K/year…easily the biggest variable in timing.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:07 pm to Covingtontiger77
As others have pointed put, it's relative to income, lifestyle, COL, expenses etc... Rather than a specific $ number, another way to look at it is a multiple of expenses. A popular rule of thumb for FIRE is 25x expenses (for a 4% safe withdrawal rate.) I'd say anyone that has accumulated that by 45 has done "great."
I FIRE'd at 45 at that mark (exceeded it at 43/44 but market correction took us down a bit).
That was attainable w 2 kids, wife that worked only a few years at entry level jobs, and no inheritance or financial help from family other than few hundred dollars a semester in college at most (given more than we've recieved.)
I FIRE'd at 45 at that mark (exceeded it at 43/44 but market correction took us down a bit).
That was attainable w 2 kids, wife that worked only a few years at entry level jobs, and no inheritance or financial help from family other than few hundred dollars a semester in college at most (given more than we've recieved.)
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:24 pm to TheOcean
What is chubby and fat fire?
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:39 pm to thelawnwranglers
Chubby fire is a NW of roughly 2.5-10 million
Fat fire is anything over 10 million
Fat fire is anything over 10 million
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:52 pm to Beachbum87
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Chubby fire is a NW of roughly 2.5-10 million
Fat fire is anything over 10 million
Kind of jealous
Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:07 am to lynxcat
I’ve used 100-120. That is a fundamental parameter for the overall calculation (by some measures the most important). One good strategy is to base it off of current yearly spend if you track that rigorously. I have generally assumed retirement annual spend will be similar to current, which is conservative with respect to lack of childcare in retirement, but maybe not conservative with respect to healthcare. This is also assuming the calculation tool is correcting for inflation.
According some tools, at 40 we’ve reached it. The earlier it is, the more risky it is.
According some tools, at 40 we’ve reached it. The earlier it is, the more risky it is.
This post was edited on 8/8/23 at 9:15 am
Posted on 8/8/23 at 10:39 am to turkish
Starting off with $5,000 and contributing $1,600/ month (15% of $133,000) or $20,000/ year with a 7% ROI is about $835,000 after 20 years. So this would be saving $20k from 25 to 45. For a two household family $133k is reasonable early but extremely reasonable by your mid 30s.
Throw in some home equity, car equity, and this is and that and I think around $1 mil net worth by 45 should be considered very good and somewhere around $1.5 mil great.
Most of your professionals like doctors, lawyers, etc. generally start off much slower as it takes them longer to get to high income and then really catch up by their early 40s.
Throw in some home equity, car equity, and this is and that and I think around $1 mil net worth by 45 should be considered very good and somewhere around $1.5 mil great.
Most of your professionals like doctors, lawyers, etc. generally start off much slower as it takes them longer to get to high income and then really catch up by their early 40s.
Posted on 8/8/23 at 10:50 am to Covingtontiger77
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$1m?
I think this is doable. I'm no OT baller. Single income family of 5. I'm in my low 40s and we have broken the $1mm net worth barrier recently.
$1.5MM should be possible for DINKs or those who started out of college around $90-100k/yr range.
EDIT: To add more context I have always saved 15% of my salary toward retirement since graduating college and have never waivered from that percentage. First salary was $55k/yr (age 24). Currently making $160k/yr (age 42).
This post was edited on 8/8/23 at 10:57 am
Posted on 8/8/23 at 11:34 am to SuperSaint
I noticed you left off the "million" part.
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