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re: What’s a great net worth by 45?

Posted on 8/7/23 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/7/23 at 12:03 pm to
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Real talk for the average American?

The OP's question was "what's a great NW?" not average. You're setting bar too low if you say any positive NW by 45 is "great."
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 12:06 pm
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3760 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 12:08 pm to
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If you decide to pull the plug on working before age 59.5, you can set up a SEPP plan to access your 401k money without the 10% penalty.
Thanks for this (and great 1st post). I thought you had to be 55 to do it, but nope! Good to know!
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1555 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:10 pm to
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Thanks for this (and great 1st post). I thought you had to be 55 to do it, but nope! Good to know!


He is referring to 72(t) withdrawals: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rule72t.asp

Another way to access 401k/IRA assets is to use a Roth conversion ladder. This allows you to avoid penalty but you have to wait 5 years (per conversion) before withdrawing it.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
40483 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:58 pm to
I am one year away for m a 60y old coast fire
Posted by grsharky
Member since Dec 2019
243 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 2:43 pm to
I think it's all relative to what kind of life you want to lead (as has been stated above). I'll be 40 this week, my wife is 35 (no pics) and our net worth is right around $500,000 right now. I feel like we lead a pretty nice life, we go on a beach vacation each year, we go out for a nice dinner a few times a month, don't have to worry about day to day money. If our net worth was double that, I doubt our lifestyle would be much different.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
81720 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 2:50 pm to
People saying "I'm at $XX net worth at XX years old" - if married, are you talking household net worth or are you taking your household and dividing it in half to get your individual net worth? Just curious how its being measured here
Posted by grsharky
Member since Dec 2019
243 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 4:23 pm to
I go by my wife and I together. We share everything so it’s just easier to say the combined number.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
44406 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 5:20 pm to
I hit my coast fire # last year at 34. No kids, not married.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24735 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 6:22 pm to
Combined. It’s all one thing now. Any calculations for retirement are based off what we both need so investments based on the same.

Quick plugs using that Coast calculator is we are right on target for retiring at 45. Too many unknowns between now and then but I know the process is working.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
40483 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 6:42 pm to
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I hit my coast fire # last year at 34. No kids, not married.


What is retirement age
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
44406 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 7:14 pm to
I'm actually at chubby fire now. Hoping to hit fat fire by 40, but likely going to ramp things down in the next year or two. Life's too damn short to work all the time
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24735 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:21 pm to
What kind of annual expenses are you planning for in retirement? I’m basing mine off $100K/year…easily the biggest variable in timing.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2668 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:07 pm to
As others have pointed put, it's relative to income, lifestyle, COL, expenses etc... Rather than a specific $ number, another way to look at it is a multiple of expenses. A popular rule of thumb for FIRE is 25x expenses (for a 4% safe withdrawal rate.) I'd say anyone that has accumulated that by 45 has done "great."

I FIRE'd at 45 at that mark (exceeded it at 43/44 but market correction took us down a bit).
That was attainable w 2 kids, wife that worked only a few years at entry level jobs, and no inheritance or financial help from family other than few hundred dollars a semester in college at most (given more than we've recieved.)
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 10:11 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
40483 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:24 pm to
What is chubby and fat fire?
Posted by Beachbum87
Las Vegas
Member since Oct 2022
3395 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:39 pm to
Chubby fire is a NW of roughly 2.5-10 million

Fat fire is anything over 10 million
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
40483 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

Chubby fire is a NW of roughly 2.5-10 million

Fat fire is anything over 10 million


Kind of jealous
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2120 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 9:07 am to
I’ve used 100-120. That is a fundamental parameter for the overall calculation (by some measures the most important). One good strategy is to base it off of current yearly spend if you track that rigorously. I have generally assumed retirement annual spend will be similar to current, which is conservative with respect to lack of childcare in retirement, but maybe not conservative with respect to healthcare. This is also assuming the calculation tool is correcting for inflation.

According some tools, at 40 we’ve reached it. The earlier it is, the more risky it is.
This post was edited on 8/8/23 at 9:15 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22486 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 10:39 am to
Starting off with $5,000 and contributing $1,600/ month (15% of $133,000) or $20,000/ year with a 7% ROI is about $835,000 after 20 years. So this would be saving $20k from 25 to 45. For a two household family $133k is reasonable early but extremely reasonable by your mid 30s.

Throw in some home equity, car equity, and this is and that and I think around $1 mil net worth by 45 should be considered very good and somewhere around $1.5 mil great.

Most of your professionals like doctors, lawyers, etc. generally start off much slower as it takes them longer to get to high income and then really catch up by their early 40s.

Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20127 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 10:50 am to
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$1m?


I think this is doable. I'm no OT baller. Single income family of 5. I'm in my low 40s and we have broken the $1mm net worth barrier recently.

$1.5MM should be possible for DINKs or those who started out of college around $90-100k/yr range.

EDIT: To add more context I have always saved 15% of my salary toward retirement since graduating college and have never waivered from that percentage. First salary was $55k/yr (age 24). Currently making $160k/yr (age 42).
This post was edited on 8/8/23 at 10:57 am
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22028 posts
Posted on 8/8/23 at 11:34 am to
I noticed you left off the "million" part.
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