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re: Out of work 7 months and counting...

Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:08 am to
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:08 am to
You probably won't be out of work for 7 months then, assuming you know what you want to do with it.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10969 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:31 am to
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getting an MBA. It's not a ticket to paradise, you really need to know exactly what you're trying to get out of it, and 90% of the time, as much as people loathe this shite, it absolutely matters where the degree came from.


An MBA is much more useful to someone in a technical position/industry (ie, an engineer) who aspires to upper management compared to someone in a business position to begin with and/or already has any business degree.

Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:48 am to
Also useful for riding an economic shitstorm out for a couple of years while still partying like a freshman.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

An MBA is much more useful to someone in a technical position/industry (ie, an engineer) who aspires to upper management compared to someone in a business position to begin with and/or already has any business degree.


Yep, lots of engineers get MBAs to make the transition into management.

Still, MBAs are useful for people with business undergrad degrees in lots of industries. As an example, the business/operational side of the healthcare industry pretty much requires it.

The issue is that people don't understand the kind of career for which an MBA will prepare them. You're going to learn how to see a company from 30,000 ft. That's useful if you're running a hospital, not if you're selling mutual funds.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 7/7/11 at 11:05 pm to
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As an example, the business/operational side of the healthcare industry pretty much requires it


It's funny cause I'm not disagreeing with you, but I've been in the healthcare industry for 8 years and my MBA hasn't helped me move up, not in the slightest.

Ah well lol.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 7/8/11 at 10:00 am to
The issue is that people don't understand that all MBAs are not created equal. An MBA where people like Jeremy Siegel or Robert Shiller or Eugene Fama are teaching you almost certainly will.
Posted by TortiousTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
12668 posts
Posted on 7/8/11 at 11:45 am to
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It's funny cause I'm not disagreeing with you, but I've been in the healthcare industry for 8 years and my MBA hasn't helped me move up, not in the slightest.


where's it from?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 7/8/11 at 12:52 pm to
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where's it from?

Orlando, and I work in the patient financial services department.

Don't know if it's bad luck or I'm not as good as I think i am lol, but the promotion just never comes.

I've had a few 2nd and 3rd interviews. I've never been written up or anything negative. All my productivity and things like that are near the top. My last 3 interviews I didn't get jobs for, the feedback they gave me was to not change my interview style cause it was just fine. But the promotion just never comes.

Ok, glad I could get that off my chest. Thanks for listening MT board.



ETA: Though, I did get a call this morning for yet another 2nd interview for another position in the company in the corporate business department. We shall see.
This post was edited on 7/8/11 at 12:53 pm
Posted by GregYoureMyBoyBlue
Member since Apr 2011
2964 posts
Posted on 7/8/11 at 1:33 pm to
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I can't imagine a non-compete has any weight in that scenario, nonetheless, that's a shame. I wouldn't expect it to take 7 months for someone with experience and an MBA to find another sales job, that's rough.


I didn't think you could force anyone into a non-compete if you got layed-off. It's one thing if you're fired or quit, but being kicked to the curb and not being allowed to work in your experienced industry seems to be a little bit outrageous. I say try to get on with whoever you want.
Posted by AlejandroInHouston
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2007
18776 posts
Posted on 7/8/11 at 3:48 pm to
I wasn't going to pass up a $40k severance package. I was with that company since my LSU undergrad days.

Would have been easier to day no if it was only a month or two of severance but it was a ton more than that.
Posted by carlsoda
B Rah
Member since Dec 2009
5776 posts
Posted on 7/8/11 at 3:49 pm to
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AlejandroInHouston


Weren't youo trying to defraud your old job last year by taking another job and collecting 2 paychecks? You said you could do this bc your territory ran itself and you really didnt work anyway? I feel bad for you for being out of work for 7 months but I think it might be due to your work ethic or lack there of... Just sayin
Posted by carlsoda
B Rah
Member since Dec 2009
5776 posts
Posted on 7/8/11 at 3:53 pm to
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I can't imagine a non-compete has any weight in that scenario, nonetheless, that's a shame. I wouldn't expect it to take 7 months for someone with experience and an MBA to find another sales job, that's rough.


You would be surprised. Ask any rep that worked for UCS or Reynolds & Reynolds after Bob Brockman bought it. My non compete was for 2 years and not a company regardless of geography would touch me.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 7/8/11 at 5:41 pm to
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Weren't youo trying to defraud your old job last year by taking another job and collecting 2 paychecks? You said you could do this bc your territory ran itself and you really didnt work anyway?


Holy shite...
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134934 posts
Posted on 7/8/11 at 5:48 pm to
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AlejandroInHouston


quote:

Weren't youo trying to defraud your old job last year by taking another job and collecting 2 paychecks? You said you could do this bc your territory ran itself and you really didnt work anyway?


Wait......what?!? Is that a joke or are you (carlsoda) being serious?
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17667 posts
Posted on 7/8/11 at 6:52 pm to
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Weren't youo trying to defraud your old job last year by taking another job and collecting 2 paychecks? You said you could do this bc your territory ran itself and you really didnt work anyway?



Wait......what?!? Is that a joke or are you (carlsoda) being serious?

I'm pretty sure he was the one. I remember the guy coming off as a fraudster based on his posting.
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17667 posts
Posted on 7/8/11 at 7:01 pm to
Yep.

quote:

Okay so I have a sales job currently making good money. I honestly only work 5-30 hours a week (usually on the low side of that - closer to single digits) as my territory basically runs itself most of the time.

I'm interviewing for other jobs now that I've finished my MBA and I was wondering if there's any HR or payroll reason why upon accepting another job offer if I can't just hang onto my current job for an extra month or two before notifying my boss that I'm taking my "2 week notice". I am pretty sure I could get away with it so far as my boss not being aware of it, etc.

"Can you get away with working two jobs at once?"
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134934 posts
Posted on 7/8/11 at 7:13 pm to
Unbelievable. Thanks, Politiceaux.

I've learned a lesson about trying to help someone I don't really know.

Now I've got to email some people and ask them to ignore the resume I sent to them and apologize to them for wasting their time. Lesson learned.....



ETA: AlejandroInHouston, YGM.
This post was edited on 7/8/11 at 7:23 pm
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26745 posts
Posted on 7/8/11 at 7:52 pm to
Check the OT. This dude deserves some shite. Look at his quotes about not caring about being highly unethical.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47809 posts
Posted on 7/8/11 at 7:54 pm to
haha... I remember that!
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134934 posts
Posted on 7/8/11 at 7:56 pm to
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Check the OT


My kevlar vest is at the cleaners.

Thanks for the heads up. I'm out of the job finding assistance business.
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