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New Vehicle Purchase: Financing Through Dealership Question

Posted on 5/19/19 at 3:25 pm
Posted by tigerbaittrick
Member since Jan 2010
7265 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 3:25 pm
Dealership offered $1,500 off if you finance through them. Took advantage of this. My question is this: how long do I need to keep this through them before exploring refinancing options? Will refinancing this loan have any effect on my warranties through the dealership?

TIA
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3789 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 3:54 pm to
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how long do I need to keep this through them before exploring refinancing options?


Not sure. I imagine there may be some fine print in the paperwork, but I doubt it. That’s like enforcing a prepayment penalty.

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Will refinancing this loan have any effect on my warranties through the dealership?

The warranty should have nothing to do with the method of financing.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10110 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 3:59 pm to
My understanding is after your first payment, you can refinance with anyone you choose.

The sales person request 3 monthly payments so that they keep their full commission. Ive had 2 sales people tell me this.
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
2820 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 5:20 pm to
I once got a similar deal through the car manufacturer/dealer. There was no time limit. When my 1st note was due I paid off the balance.
Posted by tigerbaittrick
Member since Jan 2010
7265 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 5:58 pm to
I assumed the warranty would be held separate, but I also know how dealerships are. My experience on this purchase was abysmal and they tried their hardest to really screw me.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97612 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 6:35 pm to
Warranty has nothing to do with financing. I’ve never seen minimum payments before refinancing but just read the contract you signed.
Posted by nctiger71
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2017
1318 posts
Posted on 5/19/19 at 7:06 pm to
Got a $1,000 off by financing through Ford Motor Credit in 2011.
Made one payment to them then paid off balance w/ HELOC loan.
That did not affect the warranty.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16285 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 3:26 pm to
As others have said, warranty has nothing to do with this and should not be affected.


Check fine print, and ask if there are any prepayment penalties.

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The sales person request 3 monthly payments so that they keep their full commission. Ive had 2 sales people tell me this.


Outside of a prepayment penalty, this should be the adverse affect for you moving the loan.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/20/19 at 4:58 pm to
Only time I ever financed through the dealership, I refinanced it the next day at the credit union without ever making a payment on the loan done through the dealership. Didn't incur any penalties or loss of anything. Didn't give a shite if the salesman/dealership lost anything.
Posted by ColoradoAg03
Denver, CO
Member since Oct 2012
6112 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 10:28 am to
What if a dealership is offering 0% APR 60 months ($16.67 per $1,000 borrowed), or $2,500 cash back?
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
2944 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 10:33 am to
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What if a dealership is offering 0% APR 60 months ($16.67 per $1,000 borrowed), or $2,500 cash back?
Use an amortization calculator or chart and compare. See what the rate would be from another lender, take into consideration how long you'd let the loan go, if you'd pay off early etc and run the numbers.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17251 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 11:35 am to
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Made one payment to them then paid off balance w/ HELOC loan
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24121 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:35 pm to
This makes no sense to me. You paid off a car loan with a HELOC that almost certainly is at a higher interest rate than the car loan?
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
3222 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 3:55 pm to
Just pay long enough to make sure your salesman gets his cut and then refinance if you can find a better rate. Credit unions usually have the best car loan rates.

Smart decision to take the $1500. That’s 5 monthly payments you don’t have to make!
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 3:56 pm
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82010 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 4:00 pm to
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Didn't give a shite if the salesman/dealership lost anything.
kind of shitty, the salesman is just trying to make a living like the rest of us. Unless they were offering an insane rate, you're only talking a few bucks difference here by not waiting until the commission period is over.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37007 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 5:03 pm to
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The sales person request 3 monthly payments so that they keep their full commission. Ive had 2 sales people tell me this.


And this is why I despise buying vehicles.

I'm buying a car. How I finance said purchase, or if I finance it at all, should have nothing to do with the price of said car, and sure AF have nothing to do with how the salesman is compensated.

Posted by nctiger71
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2017
1318 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:34 pm to
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This makes no sense to me. You paid off a car loan with a HELOC that almost certainly is at a higher interest rate than the car loan?


No I didn’t. Why would you assume that? The HELOC was 3.5% and the dealer’s rate was higher. I got an additional $1,000 off by initially financing w/ the dealer.

Plus, I was able to deduct the HELOC interest.

Edit: Found the loan paperwork in the vehicle. The dealer’s apr was 4.99%; the HELOC was either 1% or 2% above the prime rate, or something like that, and for most of the loan I was charged 3.5%. It may have started out at 4% or 4.5%, but it was a period of decreasing rates and the loan rate went down over time.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 10:24 pm
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25726 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 1:07 am to
I refinanced through PENFED after the first payment for 2%. I believe that rate is slightly higher than it was 2-3 years ago but it is still under 4%
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 5:51 am to
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kind of shitty


Maybe so, but so is the entire car buying experience. And honestly, the 3 months thing to get their full commission is pretty shitty to begin with. The salesperson I dealt with did very little on the financing end. The financing manager did all that work, and he was a complete arse so I'll not lose any sleep over it.
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
22810 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 6:43 am to
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Maybe so, but so is the entire car buying experience. And honestly, the 3 months thing to get their full commission is pretty shitty to begin with. The salesperson I dealt with did very little on the financing end. The financing manager did all that work, and he was a complete arse so I'll not lose any sleep over it.


This isn’t a dealership thing, this is a lender thing. Lenders usually pay a percentage of the amount financed to the dealer. The lender usually has set up in contract that if loan is paid off before the 3rd or 4th payment, then the lender will chargeback the dealer for the percent paid to dealer.

Also, warranties follow the car not the loan. GAP does not follow the car, only the loan.
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