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Hourly wage professions that are required to work on their off time
Posted on 2/10/25 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 2/10/25 at 6:04 pm
Example: The lovely Mrs. Indytiger is an NP and paid an hourly wage. She spends probably 2 hours every weekeday night at home charting. In addition, she spends probably 4-5 hours on Sundays charting. She is not paid for this time. I think its horseshite. She says it is just part of the job. Am I wrong on this?
Posted on 2/10/25 at 6:19 pm to indytiger
I would agree, but what specialty is she in? Hospitalists, emergency, urgent care, etc….Many factors could play into this. Also how long has she been an NP just out of curiosity.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 6:28 pm to indytiger
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She says it is just part of the job. Am I wrong on this?
I agree if it was every now and then, no big deal. But every week is pretty excessive.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 6:30 pm to sonoma8
She's fairly new, about 2 years now. Family medicine.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 6:38 pm to indytiger
The electronic medical record is the devil
Posted on 2/10/25 at 7:17 pm to indytiger
It's both bullshite and very common in the medical field
The only way to fix it is to become more efficient
The only way to fix it is to become more efficient
Posted on 2/10/25 at 7:39 pm to indytiger
15 hours of extra charting a week is just insane. She is either horribly inefficient or horribly overworked; I would guess a combination of the two.
She needs to looks into ambient listening AI transcription. Essentially you just set the app to record when you go into a patient encounter and it listens, synthesizes, and accurately creates a note for you. We have started using it and it's a game changer. Can see 50+ person clinics in a day and be completely finished with charting when you see the last patient.
She needs to looks into ambient listening AI transcription. Essentially you just set the app to record when you go into a patient encounter and it listens, synthesizes, and accurately creates a note for you. We have started using it and it's a game changer. Can see 50+ person clinics in a day and be completely finished with charting when you see the last patient.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 8:37 pm to tiger rag 93
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She needs to looks into ambient listening AI transcription. Essentially you just set the app to record when you go into a patient encounter and it listens, synthesizes, and accurately creates a note for you. We have started using it and it's a game changer. Can see 50+ person clinics in a day and be completely finished with charting when you see the last patient.
Damn that sounds amazing, will look into it.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 11:42 pm to indytiger
I’m leaning more on the inefficient side of this. That’s entirely too much charting for a family med practice, half the notes are pretty much done and it’s a template. She shouldn’t be waiting until after seeing pt’s to chart.
If I’m completely wrong and she’s extremely efficient but sees so many patients there’s no time to chart, then that begs the question why isn’t she asking her employer to compensate for this time based on we see X patients in a day and I have no time to chart.
If I’m completely wrong and she’s extremely efficient but sees so many patients there’s no time to chart, then that begs the question why isn’t she asking her employer to compensate for this time based on we see X patients in a day and I have no time to chart.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 12:37 am to indytiger
My wife is a salaried cardiac NP.She spends about 2 hours every night and 3-4 hours Sunday on the computer.
What she is doing is reviewing patient records for her patients and the Drs. pts to get ready for the next day.She sees 20 patients a day,sometimes more M-Th,off on Friday.
Dr sees about 40 pts M.and 40 on W.
Dr.has 4 helpers she only has 1,(check vital signs, meds)
She came home mad today,they already have her scheduled for 96 pts.next week.
I asked her about the AI transcription,she has that so she’s finished with her pt.records,for that day.
She said if she doesn’t look up pt’s records the night before she would never get done the next day.
Besides all that she calls pts if they have an abnormal test results,for a lab test,echo,etc .Dr.has a nurse to do that..Then she spends time fighting with insurance companies ,on the phone or dictating letters when IC doesn’t want to pay for meds the pt.is on.
NP for a Dr. is not all, it’s cracked up to be.When I was a ICU staff nurse,I was paid hourly and worked 84 hrs every 2 weeks.She was salaried and worked about 120 hours.If I had worked as many hrs as her with overtime I would have made same as her.
Job she has now it’s “only” about 50 hrs.a week with home work.
What she is doing is reviewing patient records for her patients and the Drs. pts to get ready for the next day.She sees 20 patients a day,sometimes more M-Th,off on Friday.
Dr sees about 40 pts M.and 40 on W.
Dr.has 4 helpers she only has 1,(check vital signs, meds)
She came home mad today,they already have her scheduled for 96 pts.next week.
I asked her about the AI transcription,she has that so she’s finished with her pt.records,for that day.
She said if she doesn’t look up pt’s records the night before she would never get done the next day.
Besides all that she calls pts if they have an abnormal test results,for a lab test,echo,etc .Dr.has a nurse to do that..Then she spends time fighting with insurance companies ,on the phone or dictating letters when IC doesn’t want to pay for meds the pt.is on.
NP for a Dr. is not all, it’s cracked up to be.When I was a ICU staff nurse,I was paid hourly and worked 84 hrs every 2 weeks.She was salaried and worked about 120 hours.If I had worked as many hrs as her with overtime I would have made same as her.
Job she has now it’s “only” about 50 hrs.a week with home work.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 6:39 am to LSUA 75
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My wife
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When I was a ICU staff nurse

Posted on 2/11/25 at 6:54 am to LSUA 75
20 patients a day is one patient every 24 mins. Why can’t she chart during that time?
You aren’t going to ever get anywhere complaining about someone at the NP level working extra off the clock. You are just going to make yourself look like a sour employee. If it’s that bad, you are better off finding a new job that either values the time, uses better tech to finish faster, or pays better.
You aren’t going to ever get anywhere complaining about someone at the NP level working extra off the clock. You are just going to make yourself look like a sour employee. If it’s that bad, you are better off finding a new job that either values the time, uses better tech to finish faster, or pays better.
This post was edited on 2/11/25 at 6:55 am
Posted on 2/11/25 at 6:58 am to indytiger
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The lovely Mrs. Indytiger is an NP and paid an hourly wage. She spends probably 2 hours every weekeday night at home charting. In addition, she spends probably 4-5 hours on Sundays charting. She is not paid for this time. I think its horseshite. She says it is just part of the job. Am I wrong on this?
My wife was a hourly NP and would stay late and on the clock to chart. Usually takes an extra half hour or so, but was worth it to be paid.
Just adjust your schedule and have her stay on the clock at the clinic.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 8:22 am to indytiger
Why does she do it at home? Would she be paid for it if she stayed after her shift at work?
Posted on 2/11/25 at 9:56 am to indytiger
Medical charting is insane. My wife is an OT and charts a similar amount of time at home. With treatment sessions scheduled every 30 min there isn’t enough time in the day to do all the charting.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:02 am to baldona
“20 patients a day is one patient every 24 minutes.Why can’t she chart during that time?”
Reading comprehension is not one of your skills,obviously. She has the AI transcription,she doesn’t have any problem completing her charts by the end of the day.
What she does at night is reviewing pt.records for the pts.she is going to see the next day.Saves time when she sees pts if she is familiar with their history,meds,etc.Gives her time to explain things,answers any questions they might have,etc.She doesn’t want pts.to feel like they’re being herded through like cattle.Occasionally confers with her boss about certain pts.to review her assessment and plan before the pt.leaves.That takes time.
Works for her,she has pts.she has been seeing for 25 years.Also these pts.often refer their friends and family members to her.
I also mentioned during the day she calls pts.if they have abnormal lab results,echocardiogram,such as that.
Also mentioned she spends time arguing with insurance companies that don’t want to pay for meds the pts.are on.That takes too much time and is extremely aggravating.
Reading comprehension is not one of your skills,obviously. She has the AI transcription,she doesn’t have any problem completing her charts by the end of the day.
What she does at night is reviewing pt.records for the pts.she is going to see the next day.Saves time when she sees pts if she is familiar with their history,meds,etc.Gives her time to explain things,answers any questions they might have,etc.She doesn’t want pts.to feel like they’re being herded through like cattle.Occasionally confers with her boss about certain pts.to review her assessment and plan before the pt.leaves.That takes time.
Works for her,she has pts.she has been seeing for 25 years.Also these pts.often refer their friends and family members to her.
I also mentioned during the day she calls pts.if they have abnormal lab results,echocardiogram,such as that.
Also mentioned she spends time arguing with insurance companies that don’t want to pay for meds the pts.are on.That takes too much time and is extremely aggravating.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:18 am to indytiger
I'm an NP. Only time I spend in our computer charting at home is when a friend needs something that I can electronically send in to the pharmacy. Way easier than calling and being on hold for 10-15 minutes.
I know someone who is on salary but required to work 45 hours a week. That seems so damn stupid.
I know someone who is on salary but required to work 45 hours a week. That seems so damn stupid.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 10:52 am to tiger rag 93
What service would you recommend or do you all use? I use otter.ai for its integration into teams but my wife would certainly benefit from something like this if they have a HIPAA compliant version.
Posted on 2/11/25 at 11:11 am to tiger rag 93
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She needs to looks into ambient listening AI transcription. Essentially you just set the app to record when you go into a patient encounter and it listens, synthesizes, and accurately creates a note for you. We have started using it and it's a game changer. Can see 50+ person clinics in a day and be completely finished with charting when you see the last patient.
Is AI use in this case a privacy violation? Buried deep in the AI terms of service is likely permission allowing the AI company to store and train AI models using the audio recording.
eta: Poster above touched on it.
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What service would you recommend or do you all use? I use otter.ai for its integration into teams but my wife would certainly benefit from something like this if they have a HIPAA compliant version.
This post was edited on 2/11/25 at 11:12 am
Posted on 2/11/25 at 3:47 pm to tke_swamprat
“I know someone who is on salary but required to work 45 hours a week”
Hell, her first job she had she worked 60 hours a week,did it about 10 years,on salary.Only thing was she had extremely good benefits.I used to bitch about it,I told her many times they were taking advantage of her.When she finally left they had to hire 2 NP’s to replace her.
Job she has now is 40 hrs a week at the office.The 9-10 hours on computer ,at home is not required.She does it just to get ready for the next day,makes her day easier.
Fine by me,keeps her busy instead of thinking,of things for me to do.??
Hell, her first job she had she worked 60 hours a week,did it about 10 years,on salary.Only thing was she had extremely good benefits.I used to bitch about it,I told her many times they were taking advantage of her.When she finally left they had to hire 2 NP’s to replace her.
Job she has now is 40 hrs a week at the office.The 9-10 hours on computer ,at home is not required.She does it just to get ready for the next day,makes her day easier.
Fine by me,keeps her busy instead of thinking,of things for me to do.??
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