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Zero upside to the actions JA is taking... all downside.

Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:27 am
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:27 am
Suspending Wade and holding out Smart.

If there are issues, these don’t help one bit. LSU will get nailed regardless of it.

But if there aren’t issues, or issues that don’t rise to the level of penalty, Joe just facked a program, a coach and a player.

This is unreal.
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:29 am to
Yep

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This is unrea


I would say it’s more “par for the course”
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:29 am to
You are 100% right.

Joe is hurting LSU. The institution I love and have strong roots.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:31 am to
Will Wade lied and then refused to meet with LSU admins to talk about it.


You've obviously never been in a position to make important decisions.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:32 am to
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You've obviously never been in a position to make important decisions.


You make it a habit to make important decisions without having all the facts?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:33 am to
suspension is perfectly fitting as you gather more facts.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:35 am to
If you are afraid of your own shadow, then you are correct.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:38 am to
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Will Wade lied

very likely not true. if he didn't know about these specific taps, he didn't lie (even under the LSU admin's factual allegations)

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and then refused to meet with LSU

a. this is likely bullshite. LSU AD leaked a story to cover its arse. this is their talking points to try to get cover with fans and the media

b. even if this is somewhat true, Wade can't really talk to them b/c of the trial. he can't really talk to anyone about this other than his lawyers. he's subpoenaed for a trial and the LSU AD knows this, and they know that he can't talk to them about this (for many legal reasons)
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Joe is hurting LSU.


fricking is killing it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:39 am to
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suspension is perfectly fitting as you gather more facts.

apparently LSU is the only university who feels this way, other than Arizona (and we'll see how Wade's suspension compares to Miller's)
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:42 am to
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Will Wade lied and then refused to meet with LSU admins to talk about it.


You've obviously never been in a position to make important decisions.


I love LSU and want the basketball team to win, but I don't get why this is so hard for so many people to understand.

When your boss tells you to show up, you show up. If you don't, you get suspended, or fired. Hell, if JA fired WW yesterday just for not showing up when called in, I would completely understand.

Whether we like JA or not, he is still the boss of WW and has a right to demand his employee talk to him.

WW yapping his gums, on a phone call, like a goddamn schoolgirl, is what put us in this position.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:43 am to
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When your boss tells you to show up, you show up.

it's a false choice and LSU knew that

hell it's likely the story isn't even 100% true. LSU AD clearly leaked information to frick over Wade yesterday

if this was the 100% truth, they'd have stated it in their official statement...but they didn't. they leaked it like a bunch of cowards
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:45 am to
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Wade can't really talk to them b/c of the trial. he can't really talk to anyone about this other than his lawyers. he's subpoenaed for a trial and the LSU AD knows this, and they know that he can't talk to them about this (for many legal reasons)


He's not been charged, right? I don't understand how an employee can't tell his boss about something that involves the company the boss and employee work for. Hell, he may not even testify.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:47 am to
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it's a false choice and LSU knew that



If this legal stuff is such a big damn deal that an employee and boss can't talk to each other, then WW needs a leave of absence from the program.

You can't run an athletic department if your employees can't talk to you for legal reasons.

Personally, I think the legal excuse is BS. But if that's the card WW is going to play (or has to play) then that by itself is enough of a reason for a suspension / leave of absence.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:48 am to
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He's not been charged, right?

he's not pleading the 5th. he's going to testify

he has no privilege with the LSU AD, so anything he tells them can lead to more subpoenas and testimony and open up a can of worms

the only people he should speak to this about are his lawyers, priest, and possibly doctor (since all provide a level of protection for communications). the LSU AD knew this and are using this as a wedge to frick over our best basketball coach in decades. it's shameful

there was no need for this meeting. there was certainly no upside to it. this is pure PR spin, and even worse, they didn't even have the balls to state it directly. they leaked it to the media like the scared children they are
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:49 am to
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You can't run an athletic department if your employees can't talk to you for legal reasons.

there is no reason for the LSU AD to speak to Wade about these allegations at this time

quote:

But if that's the card WW is going to play (or has to play) then that by itself is enough of a reason for a suspension / leave of absence.

then why didn't they suspend him when he was subpoenaed?

your argument only makes sense if they take that course of action, but they didn't
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:51 am to
They only had two realistic choices: Fire him or support him 100%

Then they did the dumbest thing imaginable
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:55 am to
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They only had two realistic choices: Fire him or support him 100%

exactly

quote:

Then they did the dumbest thing imaginable

the irony is that if Alleva believes Wade should be suspended, by the same argument, Alleva should be suspended
Posted by Chasin Tail
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:56 am to
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there is no reason for the LSU AD to speak to Wade about these allegations at this time

They knew what they were doing. Trying to fire Wade for cause to get out of the contract.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:57 am to
Alleva is apparently so dumb that he doesn’t realize suspending wade essentially points the finger at himself
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