re: You actually don’t want to be in the SECCG

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barring a string of incredible upsets like Auburn over Alabama and Miss State over Ole Miss.

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According to that site, if LSU wins out, A&M could beat Texas, State could beat Ole Miss, and Auburn could neat Bama, and LSU would still be in the SECCG:

1. Texas A&M (7 - 1)
Above Georgia and LSU based on conference opponent win percentage (0.4844).
2. LSU (7 - 1)
With Georgia, below Texas A&M based on conference opponent win percentage (0.4531).
Above Georgia based on record vs common conference opponents all played one time (3-0).
3. Georgia (7 - 1)
With LSU, below Texas A&M based on conference opponent win percentage (0.4063).
Below LSU based on record vs common conference opponents all played one time (2-1).
4. Texas (6 - 2)
Above Tennessee based on record vs common conference opponents all played one time (6-1).

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According to that site, if LSU wins out, A&M could beat Texas, State could beat Ole Miss, and Auburn could neat Bama, and LSU would still be in the SECCG:

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There's are a few more games involved.. all being unlikely upsets. I just didn't feel like listing them all. Including those two games, if Auburn beats A&M and Texas beats A&M then LSU would be out.

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if Auburn beats A&M and Texas beats A&M then LSU would be out.

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Damn Auburn.

Reminds me of the '96 and '97 seasons when the outcome of the Iron Bowl determined if LSU would go to the SECCG. In '96 Bama won 24-23, and Auburn won in '97 18-17. Switch the results and LSU goes both years.

Auburn just needs to lay down.

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You actually don’t want to be in the SECCG

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This is absurd and the NCAA or whomever needs to create a rule that basically says that your CG performance won’t be factored in the field. You can’t have a team penalized for making that game. Could also have a rule that if a conference gets more than one team in, the loser of the CG gets the first spot

conference opponent win% is pretty far down the list.

A&M has a head to head VS LSU and if LSU and UGA win out LSU would have a better record vs common opponents.

Alabama beat UGA and we need to beat alabama to finished 7-1.

Auburn may not score a point against the Aggies. Their offense is atrocious

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This is absurd and the NCAA or whomever needs to create a rule that basically says that your CG performance won’t be factored in the field. You can’t have a team penalized for making that game. Could also have a rule that if a conference gets more than one team in, the loser of the CG gets the first spot

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There is a simple solution. Finalize CFP rankings before the conference championship games. Then all of the impacts from the championship games are objective.

If a P4 team wins their conference championship games, they’re in with a first round bye. If they lose their conference championship game, they’re are seeded according to their ranking beforehand.

The only downsides (IMO) are:

1. It’s possible that all of the ranked G5 teams lose their championship games, in which case there would be no “highest ranked” G5 champion. So the CFP committee would probably need to seed any unranked championship game participants beforehand to avoid that scenario.

2. The CFP committee would not be able to play the game of ranking P4 championship game participants on the bubble to “see how they do” against the best competition in their conferences. There would need to be a stronger focus on ranking teams based on quality wins, rather than number of losses. This should be the case anyway since the champions get auto bids but I’m not sure how much I trust the committee to actually do it.

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conference opponent win% is pretty far down the list.

A&M has a head to head VS LSU and if LSU and UGA win out LSU would have a better record vs common opponents.

Alabama beat UGA and we need to beat alabama to finished 7-1.

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The issue is that most 3+ way tiebreakers cannot be determined by head to head or common opponents, so they go to opponent win%.

A 3-way tie between Tennessee, LSU, and A&M/Texas gets decided by common opponents because LSU, A&M, and Texas would all have a win over Arkansas (who beat Tennessee). However, a 3-way tie with UGA in the same scenario goes to opponent win% because neither A&M nor Texas play Bama this year.

So the scenarios where 7-1 LSU gets left out all involve a 3-way tie between LSU, UGA and A&M/Texas (most likely Texas) where UGA ends up with the best opponent win%. In that case, UGA gets 1st and it gets reduced to a 2-way tie for 2nd with A&M/Texas - both of whom would own the 2-way tiebreaker over LSU.

It’s a very unlikely scenario though, and would require 3+ upsets. Example: Auburn wins the iron bowl, Auburn beats aTm, and Mississippi State wins the egg bowl.

Not sure the purpose of the SECCCG anymore in the grand scheme of things. Beginning to feel like they need to turn it into a semi-playoff game, not sure how it could work though.

The expanded playoffs ruin the regular season and mostly conference championship games.