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Yeskie can make a good pitcher great, but can’t make an ok pitcher good

Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:08 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41057 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:08 am
His approach is to develop mlb future pitchers who can develop 4 professional pitches.

He functions in many ways like a minor league pitching instructor

He can’t develop pitchers who can’t find the goddamn plate or can only pitch a strike if its middle middle.

This approach means we will have either elite pitchers or terrible pitchers.

Recruiting thus becomes insanely important. Recruit the right guys and he takes them to next level. Recruit the wrong guys and it’s a disaster.
This post was edited on 4/27/26 at 9:09 am
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
19437 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:10 am to
Kinda like his boss. Be interesting if lil jj fires him to quell the rebellion.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162911 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:32 am to
JJ loves Yeskie, he's not firing him
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78499 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:33 am to
quote:

Kinda like his boss.


In what way?
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
83049 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:43 am to
quote:

His approach is to develop mlb future pitchers who can develop 4 professional pitches.

He functions in many ways like a minor league pitching instructor

Bold take considering we arent involved or present for the training process.

quote:

He can’t develop pitchers who can’t find the goddamn plate or can only pitch a strike if its middle middle.


This makes no sense. Please explain how he can train them to presumably throw to a spot like “middle middle” but not to sides of the plate. Please explain how that training process works

Posted by DirtyMike14
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
87 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:48 am to
I agree with this, which is why I hope we see yeskie take some type of minor league job or something. He obviously knows the game, but it doesn’t seem that he is best suited for this job.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7571 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:51 am to
You want him to go? Wait there really are people who want Yeskie out?

You guys are something else.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78499 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:52 am to
quote:

I agree with this, which is why I hope we see yeskie take some type of minor league job or something. He obviously knows the game, but it doesn’t seem that he is best suited for this job.


His whole career has been based around developing guys over multiple seasons. There were some questions around if he could have short term development success in the portal era, and then we won a championship with one of the main pieces being a portal recruit he had for less than a year.

And you're saying a guy that's proven to be one of the most successful pitching coaches in college baseball (again because of the mult-year development) should move to a role where he would have even more turnover of players and less long-term development opportunities?
Posted by lionscoach
Clemson SC
Member since Aug 2013
121 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 10:20 am to
So let me get this right, People actually think that Nate is not teaching pitchers to throw over the plate and hit their spots. Jay Johnson puts us in a shift and our pitchers can not pitch against the shift. We do not hit spots. The problem we have is that we do not have any bulldogs on the mound this year. Even Guidry is not at his normal shove it up your A&& self.

We just missed on a solid pitching staff this year. They looked good on paper but have failed to perform. It happens.

Nate Yeskie is one of the top pitching coaches in the country. I am not for or against him as a coach. I just know he is a national level pitching coach.

I am amazed that so many people try to question his ability as our pitching coach.

At some point this lack of production falls on the athlete to perform on the mound when they are called upon. We have kids coming out of the bullpen throwing 4 straight balls. This is on the athlete.

I do question pitch calls sometimes. But when a kid can only throw a strike with a curve and misses with a fastball, what are you going to call.

All we can do as a peanut gallery is support the process. The process does not work the same every year for every player. The NIL/transfer thing has hurt us and Jay has admitted he did not make the correct choices. I trust him to fix the issues. We as fans should trust his process.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37920 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 10:22 am to
quote:

His approach is to develop mlb future pitchers who can develop 4 professional pitches.


This sounds like something you pulled from deep inside your arse. How do you know this?
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
5274 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 10:23 am to
During the very beginning of and prior to the season, there was talk about many of our pitchers working on multiple new pitches. In my very unkowledgable opinion on the matter, I think it’s possible several tried to chew too much at one time. Possible not being able to hone in any one specific pitch.
Posted by lionscoach
Clemson SC
Member since Aug 2013
121 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 10:49 am to
You do not forget how to throw a fastball to a spot, you are not allowed to throw a new pitch until you master it. Regardless if they are working new pitches in or not, they should be able to hit a spot with a fastball they have been throwing for years in most cases. Just my opinion.
Posted by nogoodjr
Member since Feb 2006
859 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:39 am to
Noted
This post was edited on 4/27/26 at 11:42 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78499 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:40 am to
He did not pitch for Yeskie at LSU.

ETA: He (Riley Cooper) did pitch for him at Arizona.

But I think a good example from LSU is Christian Little, but there are a lot of people that will refuse to acknowledge how good he got prior to injury in 2024.
This post was edited on 4/27/26 at 11:44 am
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
6586 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:45 am to
quote:

We as fans should trust his process.


9 SEC losses in a row and 6-15 record leads to reasonable fans questioning the process. Blind trust is not a recipe for sustained success.
Posted by Bacon84
Texas
Member since Oct 2012
1980 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:49 am to
quote:

His approach is to develop mlb future pitchers who can develop 4 professional pitches. He functions in many ways like a minor league pitching instructor He can’t develop pitchers who can’t find the goddamn plate or can only pitch a strike if its middle middle. This approach means we will have either elite pitchers or terrible pitchers. Recruiting thus becomes insanely important. Recruit the right guys and he takes them to next level. Recruit the wrong guys and it’s a disaster.



Care to add any sort of basis or reasoning?

Because best I can tell, this is just some BS that passed through your head and you decide to make a thread…. But I see no basis in fact, at all.
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
5227 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:35 pm to
Some people here like to compare him to Saban. He's obviously not like him if he hangs on to coaches based on loyalty.
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
5227 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:40 pm to
Skip once said during an interview that if a pitcher can't hit the zone with a specific pitch at least seven out of ten times, he shouldn't be throwing that pitch in a game situation.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22602 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

At some point this lack of production falls on the athlete to perform on the mound when they are called upon. We have kids coming out of the bullpen throwing 4 straight balls. This is on the athlete.


This. At some point these guys have to hit their spots.
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7814 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 2:06 pm to
Some pitchers choke and some need experience facing good hitters before they can improve. Several of his portal guys came from weak arse conferences.
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