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re: Would you support a fan supported NIL cooperative, if it helped LSU land more talent?

Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:33 am to
Posted by nwallb2
Member since Jun 2018
753 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:33 am to
Good players help create a good product on the field that fans want to pay for and cheer for. They should be given a cut of the profits. It’s basic capitalism. Watch what happens to the ticket sales and athletic revenue if all the good players leave lol.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:53 am to

Good to know. But nothing is stopping TAF from branching out.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
3952 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:58 am to
I already overpaid LSU for a degree.

It’s obvious LSU has money based on the public deals they are making with coaches.

To boot, it seems like the NIL stuff is frequently exaggerated — players know the NFL is the endgame, it’s a minority of them that just chase the biggest bag & don’t care about other factors or to be recruited.

2025 could be the #1 recruiting class in the nation & potentially LSU’s biggest of all time.

I would be singing a different tune if the institution were underwater, but KRS makes some good points.

By all means don’t let me talk you out of wasting your money… it’s your money. But if you’re a regular pleb paying for live TV and going to games then that counts as doing your part IMO.

Mass donations are a drop in the bucket vs earned revenue & super boosters. I guarantee you it’s the same way across the entire country.

Just like in the real world, it’s a few big fish / big deals pulling the strings.
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 12:15 pm
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50319 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:33 am to
No thanks. I'm not paying into a sport that is rigged for specific programs, especially when mine isn't one of them.
Posted by Poohbear8487
Nashville
Member since May 2015
963 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:37 am to
Can Bayou Traditions actually put out good products? I don’t want a $40 t-shirt with a goat logo on it. Make some actual good products and I would buy stuff from there to support the NIL.
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
4719 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:44 am to
It’s shameful that a free 100k education is not enough. The portal and NIL needs to have definitive guidelines in place asap. Definitely can’t blame the players for taking advantage of a very broken system.
Posted by UnclePat76
McHenry County Illinois
Member since Sep 2004
2451 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:44 am to
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No. LSU makes enough money and I am not paying college athletes that already get a free education, housing, meals, tutoring while other kids can’t even afford to go to college anymore without significant loans. NIL is the worst thing to happen in college sports and should likely just end it and create real minor leagues for pro sports to pay for on their own. This


100% agree. Yes. I love LSU and am a proud graduate. But I’m not going to support a corrupt NIL program in which we have to cater to and kiss these kids assess for them to feel “respected”. Ask A&M how their huge spending spree went with NIL as well.
Posted by Atlbw
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2016
125 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:47 am to
The responses to your post just shows the hypocrisy of our fan base. They want the best players, the top coaches, the best facilities, but let somebody else pay for it. Thankfully, most of the boosters that do support financially are not on a message board.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10460 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 11:58 am to
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Good players help create a good product on the field that fans want to pay for and cheer for. They should be given a cut of the profits. It’s basic capitalism. Watch what happens to the ticket sales and athletic revenue if all the good players leave lol.


My hey are paid more than almost anyone including faculty and staff at the university with their scholarships. If the product is about making money, then make it a pro league and be done with it. Stop acting like the university is involved in anyway when money is all that matters.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10460 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:03 pm to
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The responses to your post just shows the hypocrisy of our fan base. They want the best players, the top coaches, the best facilities, but let somebody else pay for it. Thankfully, most of the boosters that do support financially are not on a message board.


No. It shows a lot of us don’t care to pay over pampered athletes to play school for not only free but get paid while others are struggling to to survive their way financially through school. Many of these other people if not most will make more important contributions to the betterment of the world than these kids will, but our investment should be in them and not a kid that may help in finding cures for deadly diseases, developing ground breaking technologies in computing, manufacturing and energy.

Nope, we need to pay for a kid to live in a penthouse while playing school. A kid that with almost 99% certainty will do nothing else meaningful towards the greater society once done.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
4166 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:03 pm to
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No. LSU makes enough money and I am not paying college athletes that already get a free education, housing, meals, tutoring while other kids can’t even afford to go to college anymore without significant loans


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No. It shows a lot of us don’t care to pay over pampered athletes to play school for not only free but get paid while others are struggling to to survive their way financially through school. Many of these other people if not most will make more important contributions to the betterment of the world than these kids will, but our investment should be in them and not a kid that may help in finding cures for deadly diseases, developing ground breaking technologies in computing, manufacturing and energy. Nope, we need to pay for a kid to live in a penthouse while playing school. A kid that with almost 99% certainty will do nothing else meaningful towards the greater society once done.


Dude…? Seriously? These kids give back so much to our state and the Tiger faithful. Sure, they are largely self-important, narcissistic assholes that may or may not be able to read and write, but this is important! Hell, I just had to break the news to my 17 y/o that I liquidated the entirety of his 529 and savings account to donate to “Bayou traditions”. He’ll have to take out a high interest rate student loan and fend for himself. He’ll probably be in debt up to his eyeballs for the remainder of his life, but Nabers, Skenes, Livvy and such are getting MY money, damn it! Should we expect them to slum it like the rest of us? No! They deserve this! I’m in it to win a championship.
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 12:21 pm
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22742 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:50 pm to
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They literally have Bayou Traditions


I just checked out the Bayou Traditions merch page, and these shorts frick

Posted by Shameless
Member since Jan 2017
828 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 1:01 pm to
You baws taking this way too seriously if you want to throw your dollars directly at immature kids playing a game & making more money than you
Posted by LSU Tigerhead
Metairie
Member since Nov 2007
4961 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 1:04 pm to
we need a salary cap on NIL.
Posted by sml71
Run if you hear banjos.
Member since Dec 2005
4310 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 1:08 pm to
What do you think NIL cooperatives are...just mysteriously-funded organizations consisting of non-fans?
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30600 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 4:47 pm to
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There is no development league for football…the colleges giving money to players only helps their development.
then let the NFL or the parents pay for it.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30600 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 4:54 pm to
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Good players help create a good product on the field that fans want to pay for and cheer for. They should be given a cut of the profits. It’s basic capitalism. Watch what happens to the ticket sales and athletic revenue if all the good players leave lol.
The average value of a top 25 school scholarship ride is 135k a year when you factor tuition(out of state not factored in), room, board, medical care and stipends. If these kids weren't athletes a large percentage would not even be in college much less at the colleges they are at. and Pray tell what else would these kids be doing as 18 year olds to legally make 135 k a year..... just like the WNbA - Nothing else other than sports would pay them that. College sports is for amatuers.
Posted by drewbilous
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
2783 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 5:12 pm to
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LSU and other SEC schools each received a payout of around $49.9 million. From the SEC 2022. So NO! LSU earned $199 million in operating revenues during the 2022 fiscal year, $77.4 million more than last year's total, according to the school's annual audit reports in 2021 and 2022. So NO!


You do realize……Even with NIL…..LSU still can’t directly pay players, right?
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
4882 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 5:15 pm to
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I gave em twenty bucks for a cold hot dog and stale popcorn. I'm done for the year.


Literally does nothing for NIL.
Concession & ticket sales & TAF money are not NIL related.

Do people not know this?
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
4882 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 5:16 pm to
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You do realize……Even with NIL…..LSU still can’t directly pay players, right?


No, unfortunately, even after 2 years, majority of this fanbase still doesn’t understand how NIL works
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