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re: Will Kentucky pitch backwards again?

Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:57 am to
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:57 am to
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don’t think that’s a good strategy for a Super.


Im with Penrod on this one. You do what it takes to win 2 games, at all costs. If you end up losing 0-2... so be it.

They will absolutely pitch backwards insofar as they even have an "ace". I guess their #1 is Darren Williams? He through last night anyway.
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 7:57 am
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/6/23 at 7:58 am to
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Im with Penrod on this one.



Two retards don’t make a right
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32827 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:13 am to
Their ace pitched game 2, so he will have a day less rest than Skenes going into Game 1 Friday. I could see UK possibly holding him for Game 2 because of this.

I think weather could also play a role if it looks like there’s any chance of early game delays Friday. It’s 30% chance of rain with afternoon thundershowers, which are exactly what we don’t need. Saturday currently has over 50% chance of rain, which could suck.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4213 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:17 am to
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They will absolutely pitch backwards insofar as they even have an "ace". I guess their #1 is Darren Williams? He through last night anyway.


Williams only started in 3 of 10 SEC series and, as you mentioned, not until their 5th game in the regional. When he did pitch, he pitched a lot of innings. His SEC relief outings were 5, 4, 3, 5, 4, 1 IP. Overall, he gave up 25 ER in 40.1 IP against SEC teams for a 5.58 ERA. He was still one of their most effective pitchers, but definitely not an ace either by results or usage patterns.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
11566 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:21 am to
It looks like we scored runs on all their top pitchers when we played them last time. I expect us to rake.

My only concern is Tommy White and Travinski fielding bunts and controlling the run game. This is an important series to have Tre on the 1B.

It looks like we went Skenes then Cooper in relief last time. I wouldn't mind seeing that again. Cooper is pitching much better and going from Skenes to Coop on the left side has to really frick up your timing
Posted by charminultra
Member since Jan 2020
2779 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:22 am to
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they are going to try to get his pitch count up


that's going to take a while considering skenes can go 120+ pitches
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:24 am to
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LSU pitching staff had their come to Jesus moment and have pitched well the last couple of weeks.


You mean scouting opposing hitters and being humble or smart enough to call pitches that they have the most difficulty hitting?
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5898 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 8:32 am to
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I think weather could also play a role if it looks like there’s any chance of early game delays Friday. It’s 30% chance of rain with afternoon thundershowers, which are exactly what we don’t need. Saturday currently has over 50% chance of rain,


Nobody knows the % of rain in South LA in june 4-5 days ahead of time unless there is some moisture coming from the gulf
that isnt happening Fri or Sat
You have to wait until 48 and more like 24 for the short term weather models to run
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13735 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:23 am to
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Skenes has two losses this year, so hes not unbearable. They don't think they can outpitch Skenes.


Both of Skenes losses are in games that he pitched less than 100 pitches. One because of a rain delay and one for the sec tourney pitch count.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4213 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:48 am to
Zach Lee has been Kentucky’s most effective starter in conference play, but he has mostly been used as a Sunday starter. He didn’t even start in the LSU series. Kentucky really seems to try to piece together a pitching staff from week-to-week. They haven’t had a consistent Friday starter who would be considered their best pitcher, so I doubt they start this week.
Posted by EulerRules
Member since Dec 2019
1841 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 10:22 am to
I think you might be neglecting the psychological impact on youngsters down 1-0 in a Super and facing the prospect of your season ending, which is not a factor during the season. No way I am throwing away the first game of a Super...but I'm not the coach.
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
11400 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 12:16 pm to
Concede game 1 to try and win 2 in a row on the road. I’m not saying they won’t but doesn’t seem like the best strategy
Posted by Tony Rocky Horror
Member since May 2023
312 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 1:06 pm to
IDK but if that isn't a punchable face that their coach has I don't know what is.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
56455 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 1:11 pm to
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Concede game 1 to try and win 2 in a row on the road. I’m not saying they won’t but doesn’t seem like the best strategy



Migione has been playing games with his friday starter all year. And it almost worked for a series victory in March

(and they also almost got swept. Baseball is funny that way)
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35667 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 1:12 pm to
They shouldn’t. As others have said, without a guaranteed third game, LSU has more than enough arms to bury them in 2.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35667 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 1:16 pm to
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Do you think it’s any different than the regular season? It’s not. It’s a three game series, and they want to win two games. The best strategy in the regular season is the best in the Supers, assuming all else is equal.

You’re very wrong here. It’s entirely different from the regular season series, where 3 games were guaranteed and Kentucky chose to go all in for winning one of three.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
26850 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 1:27 pm to
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Both of Skenes losses are in games that he pitched less than 100 pitches.


True. That's why I said they will try to get his pitch count up. The first game will be a 2:00 PM start. Gonna be hot and humid as hell. If they can force Skenes to throw 20 pitches per inning, he'll be done after 6, maybe 7. UK will need to try and stay in it until the get to the LSU pen. They need a low scoring game, and they are the type of team that can scratch out a run or two without stringing together a lot of hits.

I'm just saying that they could give us problems and Skenes isn't a guarantee. As someone else mentioned, Tommy Tanks is an adventure when fielding bunts and Travinski has been letting a lot of balls get past him. A walk, stolen base, passed ball, and a sacrifice fly can get a run home without a hit. We have to keep their lead off hitter off base if we can.

If I remember correctly, in the first series, there was a point in the third game where Kentucky had scored a run in every inning IN THE SERIES where they got the leadoff runner on, and had not scored in any inning where the lead off runner did not get on. That is an incredible statistic. They were manufacturing runs...
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
21988 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 4:19 pm to
This is the Super Regional, seems insane any team would hold back on their Ace in the first game & risk being down, especially on the road. But if Kentucky wants to take that chance, I am sure Dylan & company would be happy for the extra advantage in game 1.
Posted by Tblock
Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2021
1859 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 4:37 pm to
Their only chance at winning this super is by winning the last two games. If Lee is their best, look for him in game 2.

We're all smarter than we act on the rant. Skenes isn't losing, therefore you have to go all in on Ty Floyd.

Every team we face knows this. If they can get it to game 3, they have a shot.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72141 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 5:26 pm to
I don't want to get roasted for this, but if weather looks like a real concern for game one is there any chance you hold Skenes for game two? Probably not, but any scenario this is possible?

Please understand I am not saying to hold him for game two. Just if it looks like delays are very very likely. I don't expect this at all, FWIW. I think you still start Skenes even if weather is risky. Also, I assume you don't want to get him further behind schedule.
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 5:29 pm
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