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re: Why the for Coach “O” aka ZERO

Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:05 am to
Posted by Garlicsauce
The Salt Mines
Member since Jan 2024
103 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:05 am to
He would definitely be entertaining to have around but I feel like having him on the coaching staff might get awkward depending on how close him and Kiffin are, which I guess is pretty close if Kiffin actually called him as they were driving by the stadium. I could see him doing well in recruiting for sure, particularly with in state players.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88759 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:07 am to
you have been melting for weeks man. take a break. HFS!



O worked hard like miles and saban. didn't sit on his arse like CBK. Those saying he gave up are ignorant and i see we have many of those in this thread. pure hearsay and BS.

covid, injuries, opt outs and BLM/RC getting players to quit on hima nd bo pellini sealed his fate.

did he waste years and years of natty type teams like miles? NO

did he drag his welcome out way past his expiration date and turn whole fanbase apathetic like under miles? NO.

he is a great d line coach and recruiter

go join LANDMASS(ole piss fan) on the SEC rant. HE is putting out record melts.
that mfer is about to off himself he is so miserable. both of you should seek help. good luck!
This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 9:17 am
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36537 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:08 am to
quote:

Took a boat load of money and ran out the door.



Was he given the option to not do this?
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
5048 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:08 am to
Stfu
Posted by Zippydog
metairie , La
Member since Jan 2020
1067 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:10 am to
He functions best as a D-line coach and recruiter . Not everybody is cut out to be a HC . He could bring back toughness to the D-line and I think he enjoys recruiting . If LK wants him I am OK with it .
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
14815 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:11 am to
I think having O involved in LSU in some capacity is a win for the school. The dude is just so likeable. If he's willing to help shake hands and kiss babies to bring in $$, and he can work individually with the DT's then go for it.
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11297 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:12 am to
He talks like us...
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88759 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:13 am to
right. and CROOTIN'. nobody is saying he is the HEAD COACH. him and lane with frank will be a deadly trio.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3096 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:16 am to
I was as pissed as anyone about what Orgeron did after 2019. But that being said the one thing he was great at was coaching Dline and recruiting. I think he'd be a great fit with kiffen and probably the only coach he could work for coming back to LSU. I am a believer in second chances and as long as he wasn't coming back as HC I'm open to it, Would really love it if they kept Williams too. Could hire O as Dline analyst and co head recruiter along with Frank. State would be locked down!
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28010 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:24 am to
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He is a good recruiter and top D line coach.



He just doesn't need to be in charge. Some people need a boss to answer to. That doesn't mean they can't kill it in the proper spot.

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That being said, I don’t think he should ever be a HC again.



I largely agree but O at Tulane would be fun. And I've fricking love to bring him up to Monroe.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88759 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:32 am to
i rebutted enough of your BS above but one last thing

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He quit his responsibilities to chase skirts


link he quit? you believe all the BS CNN says also huh? MSNBC? omg i sAw a PiC oF O in BeD means he quit! LMAO.

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which cost $100 million and gave us Brian Kelly.


oh so O did the hiring and contract terms? go blame your buddy woodward dumbass.

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He set the program back 5 years.




nobody is set back like that in the NIL era. teams can change overnight for better or worse.

your boy KELLY failed. DWI.
This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 9:43 am
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15724 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:38 am to
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if Coach Kiffin wants him to play a small role on the team or coach defensive line or be a recruiter, I don’t really have a problem with that.


This is where I am.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9900 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:43 am to
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gave us Brian Kelly


False you dumb frick. Scott Woodward gave us Brian Kelly because he didn't like Kiffin.
This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 9:54 am
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14052 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:46 am to
You are eat up with it.


Orgeron worked for Woody.


Woody knee capped Orgeron, greased the skids and ran him out .
He hired Kelly, who allowed the program to fall apart.


Orgeron accomplished more in four years than Kelly accomplished in his entire career. Orgeron left more first round draft choices and future NFl stars than Kelly.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9900 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:46 am to
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I'd have rather had 2019 followed by what we had than 5-6 seasons of 10-2 and no title.


You can't rationalize with these women posting on their emotions
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
14276 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:47 am to
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He was a bad defensive line coach?


I think his worth as a defensive line coach, speaking of coaching the position specifically, is vastly overstated.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7076 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:49 am to
Don't Hire Orgeron to Coach the Defensive Line
Bring back Kyle Williams as the DL coach. Orgeron's best DL coaching days are far behind him.

More importantly, Orgeron should not be anywhere near the defensive staff. Orgeron's voice far exceeds his mental capacity, especially with his long-time friend as the head coach. We don't want O trying to undermine the DC's scheme choice. LSU does NOT need one coach nagging to run the 4-3 when the rest of the defensive staff wants to run a more modern and flexible defense.

Don't Hire Orgeron to Be the Recruiting Coordinator
I don't know how anyone can want O to be the recruiting coordinator. He is NOT a person to be in charge of, or to organize, anything as important as recruiting. He has never been known as an evaluator of talent or a person who can build a balanced roster.

Orgeron might have been a terrific closer in special situations; he certainly has a lot of energy, but he's not a coordinator. He might have been okay dealing under the table and getting HS players laid twenty years ago, but that's not how it works any more. The entire paradigm has changed.

There are other far more organized and intelligent people already in the program that are better qualified to be the recruiting coordinator.

Maybe Don't Let Orgeron in the Door at All
Orgeron has a long history of bad decisions. Orgeron has a long history of creating bad situations and failing to make the correct choices. Given Kiffin's history, LSU does not want or need an enabler for Kiffin. Hiring Orgeron would be like inviting a drinking buddy to live with a reformed alcoholic.

Kiffin is trying to get better. Kiffin is turning his life around. Kiffin found a sense of continuity and peace at Ole Miss. LSU does not need to bring in a person who is going to jeopardize all of the maturity and stability Kiffin has achieved.

Again, Orgeron's voice far exceeds his mental capacity, especially with his long-time friend as the head coach. LSU does not need a coach like Orgeron underfoot. LSU had to pay him $16 million to make him go away the last time. There is far too much at stake to risk it by bringing in a drinking buddy. Drunk Uncle Ed can visit, but you cannot let him stay.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88759 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 9:55 am to
quote:

I think his worth as a defensive line coach, speaking of coaching the position specifically, is vastly overstated.


it's not. you're ignorant. sorry. the man coached NFL d lineman.
Posted by GhostofJackson
Speedy Teflon Wizard
Member since Nov 2009
7044 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 10:00 am to
CEO definitely had some pretty bad hires and some head scratching moments. That being said, here are some facts about CEO after the championship.

He had to navigate a complete rebuild after 2019. I think at one point in 2020, there wasn't a single starter from the NCG still playing, just 10 months later. We also lost a lot of coaches.

He lost his starting QB after 3 games into the 2020 season and our need to use young guys hurt the overall play.

He had to deal with the BS that COVID brought which was tough for everyone, and that made the transition harder. He also had to deal with BLM stuff and an alum working for ESPN who was getting into the heads of some of the athletes.

Then, the following year, NIL started which was a wild west (and still is). He was the first LSU coach in history to have to deal with that, which was a tough transition in terms of what was legal in recruiting and benefits.

CEO definitely saw rock bottom at LSU, but to put it all on him isn't right.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
14276 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 10:01 am to
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it's not. you're ignorant. sorry. the man coached NFL d lineman.


He was the DL coach of the Saints for one season. His name was made as a DL coach at Miami over 30 years ago. The rest is a whole bunch of “meh”
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