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Why LSU isn't hosting
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:00 pm
1) 11 games vs. Maine/Towson/Bethune-Cookman/Southern/Grambling. That number should be 2 (1 vs. Southern and 1 vs. Grambling). That's why our RPI is so low. An SEC team with a winning record and a top 16 RPI gets a host site even winless in the SEC tournament (see Auburn). We've got to start scheduling tougher. The first 4 non-conference weekend series should all be Q2/Q1 opponents. We've got to start scheduling more road games too. This new RPI formula that went into effect a few years ago that weights road wins 1.5x is why the RPI is so screwed up (see Dallas Baptist). Out of 26 non-conference games, 8 of them need to be away from Alex Box (2 weekend series & 2 midweek games). Play a tournament, play a regional road series (USM, South Alabama, Louisiana Tech, one of the Texas schools, etc.). Play a road game at either ULL or Tulane every season.
2) Jacob Berry's injury. LSU went 2-6 in the SEC games he missed. They went 16-9 in the SEC games he played. When he played, they were not just a host team but likely a top 8 seed. 5 of the 6 losses were against Alabama, Ole Miss, and Kentucky. They likely win 3 of those 5 with him.
3) Kentucky beating Auburn in round 1 of the SEC tournament. Playing Kentucky twice (especially losing once) killed our RPI. Playing Auburn/Vanderbilt/Tennessee would have been much better. Not to mention beating Auburn would have helped our case versus them for a host site. Also, Florida winning 3 straight games killed us as well. If they would have lost any of those 3 we would probably would have hosted. Basically, the 6 wins by Florida and Kentucky hurt a lot.
2) Jacob Berry's injury. LSU went 2-6 in the SEC games he missed. They went 16-9 in the SEC games he played. When he played, they were not just a host team but likely a top 8 seed. 5 of the 6 losses were against Alabama, Ole Miss, and Kentucky. They likely win 3 of those 5 with him.
3) Kentucky beating Auburn in round 1 of the SEC tournament. Playing Kentucky twice (especially losing once) killed our RPI. Playing Auburn/Vanderbilt/Tennessee would have been much better. Not to mention beating Auburn would have helped our case versus them for a host site. Also, Florida winning 3 straight games killed us as well. If they would have lost any of those 3 we would probably would have hosted. Basically, the 6 wins by Florida and Kentucky hurt a lot.
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Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:07 pm to ccox11
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:07 pm to ccox11
1) Would love to see LSU play 1 road series each season in/near N. Texas. Lots of choices between TCU, SMU, UNT, UTA, DBU, Baylor, ACU, etc.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:19 pm to ccox11
How about we win more next year and get a National Seed. We knew what we needed to do at the end of the season, and we didn’t do it.
Now let’s go win in Hattiesburg.
Now let’s go win in Hattiesburg.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:23 pm to ccox11
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11 games vs. Maine/Towson/Bethune-Cookman/Southern/Grambling. That number should be 2 (1 vs. Southern and 1 vs. Grambling).
That’s not really possible. Sure, you don’t want 3 series like that, but you have to have at least one and a lot of times two.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:24 pm to TexTgrTed
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Would love to see LSU play 1 road series each season in/near N. Texas. Lots of choices between TCU, SMU, UNT, UTA, DBU, Baylor, ACU, etc.
Yeah let’s definitely get SMU and North Texas on the schedule. That will help the RPI.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:25 pm to ccox11
No being 1 ,2 , 3 in the SEC in errors is why. We lost minimum of 4 games because of errors. Errors cost you a hosting site not scheduling.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:27 pm to ccox11
What about the 10 games they lost due to errors. All of the shite you typed doesn’t matter. If they were top of the league in fielding they would be hosting.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:32 pm to ccox11
The numbnuts in the selection committee give too much shite about the sec tournament rather than the THIRTY frickING GAMES before it.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:32 pm to ccox11
Eh seems like getting swept by Ole Miss hurt our RPI more than playing the games
you listed. Going into Ole Miss we were top 16 in RPI (I think 15) after that series we were in the 40’s. Don’t get swept by a ncaa bubble team would seem to be a good plan.
you listed. Going into Ole Miss we were top 16 in RPI (I think 15) after that series we were in the 40’s. Don’t get swept by a ncaa bubble team would seem to be a good plan.
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:34 pm to ccox11
I heard we're bringing Will Wade back as a scheduling consultant.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:37 pm to ccox11
There are a lot of ways to look back on our regular season. I think the OP makes some good points.
But curious why it's overlooked that we played a tournament in Minutemaid this year. Should we have played two? Confused on this part.
For our midweek games we could have a quasi I-10 league. Play a season long round-robin among:
Houston, Rice, Lamar McNeese, ULL, Tulane, UNO, and S. Alabama. SLU would be optional (but technically I-12).
But curious why it's overlooked that we played a tournament in Minutemaid this year. Should we have played two? Confused on this part.
For our midweek games we could have a quasi I-10 league. Play a season long round-robin among:
Houston, Rice, Lamar McNeese, ULL, Tulane, UNO, and S. Alabama. SLU would be optional (but technically I-12).
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:37 pm to ccox11
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1) 11 games vs. Maine/Towson/Bethune-Cookman/Southern/Grambling. That number should be 2 (1 vs. Southern and 1 vs. Grambling). That's why our RPI is so low. An SEC team with a winning record and a top 16 RPI gets a host site even winless in the SEC tournament (see Auburn). We've got to start scheduling tougher. The first 4 non-conference weekend series should all be Q2/Q1 opponents. We've got to start scheduling more road games too. This new RPI formula that went into effect a few years ago that weights road wins 1.5x is why the RPI is so screwed up (see Dallas Baptist). Out of 26 non-conference games, 8 of them need to be away from Alex Box (2 weekend series & 2 midweek games). Play a tournament, play a regional road series (USM, South Alabama, Louisiana Tech, one of the Texas schools, etc.). Play a road game at either ULL or Tulane every season.
This didn’t help, but I don’t think it would have changed anything. Even if LSU had matched Florida’s non-conference RPI, they still would have been behind Auburn and Florida. Judging by the seeding and Notre Dame being passed over for a host spot to keep SEC and ACC host spots even at 4, I think LSU would have still been passed over for a spot. They weren’t going to replace USM, Maryland or Ga Southern, so Auburn and Louisville were the only possibilities. Auburn would have been ahead on RPI and Louisville would have stayed to keep it even between the SEC and ACC.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:40 pm to ProjectP2294
They will definitely give the rpi a huge boost. Especially if you beat them on the road
Posted on 6/1/22 at 12:20 am to ccox11
They have a very favorable draw in that being the Starkville regional. Just roll with it and don’t be consumed about the past.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 4:08 am to ccox11
I am so confused. You are saying mid week games matter. Matt Mascona says everyone is stupid and mid week games don't matter. Of course he is right because he is so much smarter than everyone else. Don't believe me, just ask him.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 4:19 am to ccox11
you make 3 valid points, but get down votes nonetheless
Posted on 6/1/22 at 4:44 am to ccox11
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LSU went 2-6 in the SEC games he missed
Didn't we sweep Vandy without him?
E: nope, played in all 3 games
This post was edited on 6/1/22 at 4:48 am
Posted on 6/1/22 at 6:54 am to ccox11
We got swept at home by the last team to make the tournament at the end of the season then went 1-2 in the SEC tournament. 3 of the best players on our team are also currently injured.
Posted on 6/1/22 at 7:07 am to ccox11
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We've got to start scheduling tougher. The first 4 non-conference weekend series should all be Q2/Q1 opponents.
ECU is hosting. They played a TOTAL of 9 Q1 games. 2-7 in those. LSU played 26 and 10-16 in those. The AAC is one of the weakest conferences in the nation.
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