re: Why is it hard to attract elite coaches at LSU?

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I watched a couple of the BOS meetings (one during the HB Report and another general mtg). It screams good ole boy politics, which is the enemy of what progressive / advanced coaches need.

Most of them fellas looked like "the guy" in many Louisiana small towns...you know the guy...the who owns most of the small town, who leads the back of back the back room Thursday night poker game where the good ole boy good ole action takes deep root with the small town's notables and state's connected.

Presents too many limitations for nuevo thinking coaches.

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To be fair, this is how most major college football programs operate. A lot of opinions on how to run shite from big money people with local political ties and influence with the right people in administration. Elite coaches hate it but learn to deal with it, others try to take their talents to the NFL rather than deal with kissing a bunch of rich boosters' and politicians' asses.

Joe Brady wanted nothing to do with college coaching life long term, which is why he bolted back to the NFL when he had the opportunity. Chip Kelly couldn't stand it either at Oregon and I think he still has eyes on getting back into the league one day. Nick Saban would probably still be an NFL coach if his first gig wasn't the horribly run Dolphins and Alabama hadn't laid out an opportunity he couldn't turn down. By the time that happened, Bama was desperate for success and Saban was at a point to where he could pretty much dictate terms to any school that pursued him and any threat of meddling in his program could be squashed with the threat of leaving for the league again or bolting to the next major college job that opened up.

LSU is one of the top jobs in the country

1Fertile recruiting grounds with no in state competition
2Excellent facilities
3Hungry fan base
4 Strong financial support through a well funded taf.
5 Potential naming options for field, stadium, and other athletic facilities
6 Very good quality of life (except for hurricanes)
7 Incredible value for the pay
8Toughest division in college football -SEC west
9 good support from administration

Imo, the biggest weakness is the belief that the job is top tier.

Sorry folks but if Tuscaloosa alabama can draw a top coach then so can Baton Rouge.
And if it was all about location then Austin Texas or Athens Georgia would be champions.

It’s about belief

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how Saban wasn’t always pleased with the way things were when it came down to politics/administration/boosters etc.

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Saban hates dealing with anyone not directly involved with football. That means boosters, admin, etc.

He landed in the perfect situation at Bama. He's won 5 NC's going on 6. Bama has and will give him anything he asks for. If that means to be left alone, they give him that. Saban is more important to Alabama than the governor.

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Given the last decade, I expect Bama to beat us 4 out of 5 seasons.

For me, I'm mad at O because of horribly managed coordinator hiring outside of Brady, repeated performance mistakes that are not corrected for multiple games in a row, lack of in-game strategy adjustment, and imo questionable and predictable play calling. But as of today, I'm mostly mad at O because our own players are admitting they are unprepared mentally and physically for our opponents

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I'm in 100% agreement. My post was towards the knumb nuts who says people want to run off a coach every 2 years because they didn't beat Bama.

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It's hard to hire good coaches away from good places, and a lot of things have to line up for them to move.

LSU is as attractive a job as almost any, outside of like an Ohio State or a something like that.

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Yes, that is a no-brainer...... Take Ohio State..they have only had 5 HC's in the last 72 years ( don't count Fickells interim year) and all have been fired except for Urban Meyer... All were highly successful also

I don't think it's hard for LSU to attract elite coaches. I do think there's only a handful of elite coaches out there that can compete with the likes of Nick Saban year in year out and those guys are pretty much locked in to their current job. That has to account for something.

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Why is it hard to attract elite coaches at LSU?

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its not. most of yall totally overstate how easy it is to get a top quality coach to move from one P5 to another.

Bama got saban out the nfl

OSU got Meyer while he was retired, then promoted an OC. Before Meyer it was Tressel from DIAA and then intern of Fickel.

OU got stoops when he was a DC then promoted his OC

Texas hired a sitting OC and former HC with meidocre results, before that it was a G6 coach in herman and then it was a low teir P5 in Louisville

UF got Meyer from G6 Utah, then Mac g6 Colorodo state, then Mullen from lower tier P5 school.

Clemson promoted a WR coach

FSU promoted Jimbo, then went and got Taggart from a high level P5 job then replaced him with G6 coach from memphis

A&M got sumlin from g6 houston then replaced him with a big time hire in Jimbo who wanted to leave FSU for a school willing to spend more money. Also got unprecendented contract

UGA- hired Richt when he was FSU OC, then Kirby when he was Bama GC

UT- hired Lane after the NFL, then Dooley from G6 LT, then G6 from Cincy in Butch, then Pruit who was DC then went to G6 UCF coach

Arky hired a OL coach

Oregon promoted their OC after stealing taggart from SFl

USC- stole lane from UT then stole Sark from UW but then promoted from within. Sark and Lane were following dream job.

Michigan- stole RIch rod from WVu but that was different time essentialyl and WVU wouldnt give facilities and rich rod was flirting with everyone. then brady hoke from g6, then harbaugh who is alum who wanted back in cfb from nfl

ucla- hired assistants then an alum out of retirement then a failed nfl coach in kelly

penn state hired nfl oc in OBrien then stole Vandys HC and vandy is the lowest of low tier.

Vtech- took G6 coach
UDub- stole Boise coach then promoted assitant

ND- stole G6 coach from cincy

could go on and on, bottomline is outside of jimbo getting money whipped and wanting a change to get away from Xwife, Lane/sark/taggart following their dream job you just dont see any big time coaches leaving to go to other schools.

Sure you can go steal from low level P5 like vandy or Miss state or go get a G6 coach but established coaches at p5 schools that can win a championship dont leave.

We could prolly get Lane if thats the direction we wanted to go, but we arent stealing saban, dabo, kirby, day, lincoln riley, kelley, jimbo etc. Its assinine to think that you even remotely could.

What do we offer than makes them want to leave their current school? Money...nope those schools will pay just as much, facilities...nope all big schools have crazy facilities, championships....no more than other schools, recruiting...most big time schools are big time because they can recruit, culture...yea right, lower taxes...year right

so wtf do we offer over other top 15 schools? answer is nothing in general.

for baseball....we are the all time great program and offer more resources than all but a handful so you can there.

womens basketball- she just wanted to come home

mens basketball- got wade from lower level school and in general we offer shite for both bball teams in terms of facilities, coverage, resources, etc

so again wtf do we offer?

LSU doesn't have that problem. Joe Alleva and Ed Orgeron had/have that problem.

Probably because we should've fired Les at the end of the previous season...and/or that we fired the winningest coach in school history.

Not that I think he should have been retained.