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re: Which players were not included on the regional roster?

Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:32 am to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:32 am to
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I’ll take my chances with 6’ 215# 4.4 40 guy


If he was that big and fast, why did he seem so slow last football season? I’m guessing he was around 4.7. He wasn’t Delpit fast.

He did look good his freshman year at safety and in the OF. He wasn’t the same player in football as a Soph. Baseball? All we know is he was behind seversl players. Why? Dunno, but as a freshman he had worked his way up, and why he didn’t continue at that level is unknown.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:38 am to
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Baseball? All we know is he was behind seversl players. Why? Dunno, but as a freshman he had worked his way up, and why he didn’t continue at that level is unknown.
We "know" he was behind how?
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:46 am to
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So all the extra work for cranford, Wyeth, and safford is really paying off??
And yes he’s a world class athlete. How and the hell else do you get offered over $1mill by MLB amd play football in the SEC??
At that point we were floundering at the plate.
Give him the 18 starts you gave drost and see where we are. Or the 12 by cranford.
Why does Safford have 32 ab’s? He’s all of 5’7” and can’t be more than 165# soaking wet,
I’ll take my chances with 6’ 215# 4.4 40 guy
Hampton isn’t a catcher or infielder so Cranford and Wyeth are irrelevant. The majority of Safford’s ABs were after Hampton left, and very well may have been given to him if he had stayed around. There was no reason to replace Drost at the time Hampton left as he was hitting over .300 at that point, but as mentioned above he was beginning to slump and someone else was going to get a chance.

If MLB offered him $1mill and he turned it down it’s clear they didn’t think he was as certain to turn that athleticism into refined baseball skills as he or his family may have thought.

The bottom line is if he’s going to reach his potential in baseball he’ll have to give up football or go somewhere with no expectations, or very little talent, in baseball.
Posted by lsutiger2
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:47 am to
So who are the players?
Posted by sportjunkie69
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:49 am to
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And that’s what’s puzzling and dumb.
Doghouse might have been the wrong analogy. But he clearly was put in the back of the line since he didn’t participate in fall.
World class athletes just need the reps.
Put him out there especially after Gio injury and let him roll


I don't understand how no one sees what clearly went on here with Hampton. He was not going to be a starter at safety, probably down to 3 or 4 on the depth chart. Orgeron quietly let Mainierie know that it wouldn't be the worst thing if he transferred, so Orgeron could get the scholarship back. Mainierie didn't have anything for him so he counseled him that he probably wouldn't get a lot of PT on the baseball field.

Given all that what do you think Hampton should have done? Stuck it out and hope he gets some special teams PT or a couple safeties get hurt and he gets some PT in certain situations?

This was a tag team effort to free up a schollie.
Posted by GorgeousGeorge
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:54 am to
I think he’s done that a few times this season. As long as he remembered his glove and catcher’s mask we’ll be ok.
Posted by Ampipe96
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:05 pm to
I bring up the others because of the opportunity. You could shuffle guys around. Like put Dugas at 2b, instead of LF and put Hampton out there. There’s any number of ways he could have been given more of an opportunity
Posted by LSBoosie
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:10 pm to
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There was no reason to replace Drost at the time Hampton left as he was hitting over .300 at that point

I mean Hampton was hitting .500 at that point..
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:14 pm to
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I bring up the others because of the opportunity. You could shuffle guys around. Like put Dugas at 2b, instead of LF and put Hampton out there. There’s any number of ways he could have been given more of an opportunity


All of this was discussed in real time as it was happening. I know because I brought it up.

But at this point Hampton has been off the roster for almost 50 games and Mainieri is on his way out.

The rehash is unnecessary.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:22 pm to
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There’s any number of ways he could have been given more of an opportunity
Yes, but none of them are related to Cranford, Wyeth, or moving Dugas to 2nd as it is apparent he is now a full time outfielder. The only option involving Dugas was moving him to DH and Hampton to LF, but that was another one he didn’t hang around long enough for.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:30 pm to
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I mean Hampton was hitting .500 at that point..
In 4 or 5 at bats compared to 30. But even with that small sample he was probably in line for a shot next as Sanford didn’t run with the opportunity and Drost was in the middle of giving it up.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 1:19 pm to
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We "know" he was behind how?


Watching the substitutions.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 1:25 pm to
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In 4 or 5 at bats compared to 30. But even with that small sample he was probably in line for a shot next as Sanford didn’t run with the opportunity and Drost was in the middle of giving it up.



Tale of two Hamptons

Freshman year at football he was involved in key spots. In baseball he worked his way up after a late arrival to the starting lineup until he was injured.

Soph year, his football play declined and when he came out late for baseball he didn’t climb the depth chart as he had the previous season. PM had him behind other players.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 1:37 pm to
Are you saying Cranford > all our 2B options? Since subs and all.

I’m not trying to gotcha. But let’s not pretend like PM was or is smart with who plays and when.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:18 pm to
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Are you saying Cranford > all our 2B options? Since subs and all.

I’m not trying to gotcha. But let’s not pretend like PM was or is smart with who plays and when.


I haven’t commented on Cranford. I commented on Hampton.

No doubt PM has done done bizarre things this season. I’m just commented on the pecking order.

As for Cranford, he played because of the failure of others. We have had an inordinate amount of kids who did have chances and did not take advantage of them. If Arnold, Bianco, Drost, Safford, Cranford or Beloso of several others had taken advantage of their opportunities we wouldn’t see so many changes. Poor recruiting left us with too many lineup holes.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:34 pm to
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As for Cranford, he played because of the failure of others. We have had an inordinate amount of kids who did have chances and did not take advantage of them.


Zach Arnold was fricking thriving when Paul pulled Cranford out of his arse to start against Mississippi State.
Posted by Naptime
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:47 pm to
He’s been smart way more than he’s been dumb
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 3:22 pm to
This year? When?
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 3:30 pm to
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Zach Arnold was fricking thriving when Paul pulled Cranford out of his arse to start against Mississippi State.


Arnold hasn’t hit SEC pitching.
200/229 with two homers isn’t good.
Overall he’s 262/310 with 6 homers.
He’s better against midweek pitching.
And please define thriving because with one exception (against UTSA on Sunday) his games immediately before State there weren’t much to brag about. Now Cranford had nothing to brag about either, but Arnold has had every opportunity to step up and he has not been consistent.
This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 4:30 pm
Posted by Naptime
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 4:27 pm to
Over his career. Give credit where credit is due. It’s clear you can’t stand him but he’s done way more good than bad. He should have respect
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