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Where does this 2023 team rank with the 6 other National Title teams?
Posted on 6/30/23 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 6/30/23 at 2:56 pm
Lots of stars on this team and quite the road map in Omaha to the title. Is this one the best or is maybe, 1997?
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 2:58 pm to I-59 Tiger
1997, but not by much.
One could argue that NCAA baseball is way more competitive now.
One could argue that NCAA baseball is way more competitive now.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:02 pm to I-59 Tiger
In terms of relative to their time? Probably 97.
But I believe this team would beat 97 in a 3 game series.
Also known as a “can you sweep the final 2 games after you lose to Paul Skenes” series
The problem with these questions is they aren’t fair to the older squads. To suggest that 2023 doesn’t have a knowledge/preparation advantage over 1997 is to suggest that we’ve learned nothing over the last 26 years and evolved none.
But I believe this team would beat 97 in a 3 game series.
Also known as a “can you sweep the final 2 games after you lose to Paul Skenes” series
The problem with these questions is they aren’t fair to the older squads. To suggest that 2023 doesn’t have a knowledge/preparation advantage over 1997 is to suggest that we’ve learned nothing over the last 26 years and evolved none.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:06 pm to chinhoyang
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1997, but not by much.
One could argue that NCAA baseball is way more competitive now.
Agreed.
The 1997 team was the most dominant of Skip's teams. The 2023 was on pace until they stumbled a bit towards the end of the season.
Still, I don't think you can say anyone had a tougher path through the CWS than the 2023 team. The had to beat an SEC team (Tennessee) 2x, as well as the #1 and #2 teams 2x each, all in the span of 10 days.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:07 pm to I-59 Tiger
It depends on how you’re judging them. I think ‘09 or 2000 actually had the most big leaguers. This team could eventually top those, especially with more long-term, better big leaguers, but there’s no guarantee, obviously, and we’d have to wait a while to be able to judge it.
It’s a fun topic, but there’s no objective right answer. “Best” is in the eye of the beholder.
It’s a fun topic, but there’s no objective right answer. “Best” is in the eye of the beholder.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:08 pm to Alt26
97 was peak Gorilla Ball but them playing this year's team would've been a helluva matchup.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:10 pm to Hot Carl
quote:
It’s a fun topic, but there’s no objective right answer
No doubt. Just winding down not wanting to do much before a pseudo four day weekend (can't imagine Mon will be much).
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:11 pm to I-59 Tiger
The strength of the teams faced in Omaha and the level of play might make this the best team ever...it's just hard to top the walk off win. I just enjoy all of them...in 91 I truly didn't believe I would ever see us win one and now it's 7
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:12 pm to I-59 Tiger
Definitely 97
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:14 pm to I-59 Tiger
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No doubt. Just winding down not wanting to do much before a pseudo four day weekend (can't imagine Mon will be much).
Oh, I wasn’t hating on the topic at all. It’s way better than the Daniels vs. Nuss ones that a sure to start littering the board very soon. There’s already 1.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:16 pm to Hot Carl
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It depends on how you’re judging them. I think ‘09 or 2000 actually had the most big leaguers.
2009 was the most complete team we’ve had in every phase of the game. That team really had no weaknesses.
Two AA pitchers in the rotation and a great #3. Best closer in college baseball with good middle relief. We hit for average and power and had arguably the best defense in college baseball. We also swept through the NCAAT to the finals, blowing out everyone in the CWS until the championship series. We also won the SEC and SECT, not losing a single SEC series. That team is very under appreciated
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:22 pm to I-59 Tiger
Top 2 for sure.
Not the lowest ERA ever. But this team broke the LSU record for team strikeouts.
And it looks like they tied the team record for on base percentage with 0.432. Stats list doesn't give plate attempts so I'm not sure if there is a rounding difference.
Not the lowest ERA ever. But this team broke the LSU record for team strikeouts.
And it looks like they tied the team record for on base percentage with 0.432. Stats list doesn't give plate attempts so I'm not sure if there is a rounding difference.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:30 pm to I-59 Tiger
I wasnt old enough to really know the 90s teams but I would put 2009 up against 2023 and would probably pick 2009 in a 3 game series. 2009's batting order from top to bottom was better imo.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:30 pm to lsufball19
quote:They did drop 2 of 3 to a terrible Tennessee team at the Box in April
We also won the SEC and SECT, not losing a single SEC series
That’s baseball
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:47 pm to I-59 Tiger
One game winner take all, no team is beating Skenes.
Three game series would make it interesting. People always forget that the 1991 team was LOADED with pitching, both front line and bullpen. I don’t know if the 1997 team had enough overall pitching to lose to Skenes in game 1 and then win 2 in a row. 2009, as others have mentioned, gets under rated in theses discussions.
Three game series would make it interesting. People always forget that the 1991 team was LOADED with pitching, both front line and bullpen. I don’t know if the 1997 team had enough overall pitching to lose to Skenes in game 1 and then win 2 in a row. 2009, as others have mentioned, gets under rated in theses discussions.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:25 pm to I-59 Tiger
The 1991 team steamrolled through the CWS. The championship game was 6-3 but it was really never in doubt.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:30 pm to I-59 Tiger
1997 is the only team that might have a better team overall.
This is how I would rank it
1. 1997
2. 2023
3. 1996
4. 2000
5. 1991
6. 2009
7. 1993
This is how I would rank it
1. 1997
2. 2023
3. 1996
4. 2000
5. 1991
6. 2009
7. 1993
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:32 pm to Choupique19
quote:It happened twice before, and Lowder left tied after 7. Skenes was not invincible, but you had to be near perfect to beat him.
One game winner take all, no team is beating Skenes.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:33 pm to I-59 Tiger
Depends on what you mean by best.
most talents? probably.
would win head to heads arguably
most accomplished? no
we’ve had teams win the SEC and the Tournament and 2009 had a better record in the post season.
most talents? probably.
would win head to heads arguably
most accomplished? no
we’ve had teams win the SEC and the Tournament and 2009 had a better record in the post season.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 4:33 pm to lsufball19
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2009 was the most complete team we’ve had in every phase of the game. That team really had no weaknesses.
Without delving too deep in the numbers, this one is probably who I’d go with too. With as great as their lineup was and they just homered their way through the postseason, I think the ‘97 team is probably a bit overrated with so much time removed. I bet they lost more games and more games by big margins than people remember. But the absurd amount of home runs has kinda skewed the perception of how they really were. Which is fine by me, I loved watching that team hit 450+ ft bombs all over the place.
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