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re: What is your biggest concern regarding Ensminger?
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:16 pm to 00 Tech Grad
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:16 pm to 00 Tech Grad
My biggest concern would be qb development. We have struggled in that regard since jimbo basically with coach steve on the sidelines during a lot of that time frame. I do think he is very knowledgable and a lot better than most realize on here. But if we are looking at question marks.... that would be my biggest.
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:17 pm to bencoleman
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He's got all of the tools to succeed.
How do you know this, besides Coach Orgeron telling you so?
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:21 pm to Goldrush25
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Orgeron talks about 2016 every time he talks about Ensminger and his offense. And we know how enamored he is the the USC offenses of the mid-2000s. He is fixated with the past.
It appears that Orgeron's idea of the perfect collegiate football team is the early 2000's USC teams and Pete Carrol's USC teams in particular.
After Orgeron was named head coach at Ole Miss, he tried luring Lane Kiffin to join him and run a USC Style" type offense. After Orgeron was named head coach at LSU over 10 years later, he tried luring Kiffin once again to join him and run the offense he desperately wants.
The exact same events that unfolded at Ole Miss are now being played out here at LSU. Orgeron's obsession with USC's past offense has greatly contributed to his failings as a head coach. It may even ultimately be his head coaching demise if Ensminger can't successfully run O's chosen offense.
Norm Chow was a Broyles Award winner that ran USC's offense with Heisman Trophy winning QB's in Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart. Reggie Bush and LenDale White were both All America RB's who shared time in the backfield.
This kind of offensive dynamic that Orgeron wants just isn't easily re-created. It doesn't stop him from trying though.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:24 pm to 00 Tech Grad
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"We're going to look at recruiting the best offensive coordinator in football and bring them to LSU"-Coach Ed Orgeron, Nov 26, 2016
NOLA.com/The Times Picayune
Two years and two offensive coordinators later, turns out we had the best one all along!
Posted on 7/31/18 at 6:24 am to 00 Tech Grad
That he really did not want the job and had to be convinced and talked into taking it.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 6:28 am to Jenar Boy
Have yall forgotten that he DID NOT want to be OC and had to be talked into accepting the position by O. 
He's got the first 3 games to show me what he can do......
He's got the first 3 games to show me what he can do......
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:09 am to 00 Tech Grad
Ensminger will do very well. He is experienced. He showed he can handle the play calling pressure. He and Orgeron are on the same page. Going to be fun to watch. We are only limited by our QB. Optimistic that Burrow will be a playmaker vs a game manager that we have to hide. Defense going to be very tough... perhaps dominant. We finally have 3/4 personnel and depth. We have been running a 3/4 without a true nose tackle for two years. We have had no LB depth for two years Now we have it. Aranda said it is optimum to play DLman 36 plays. Gilmore and Lacatour were playing 60 plays. Lawrence was hurt. In 2016 we lose to Florida because Beckwith gets hurt and Dante Jackson gets beat twice deep. Guice goes the wrong way and fumbles. Anyway. Ensminger will use our assets. And our QB will be able to throw in situations other than 3rd and long
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:42 am to 00 Tech Grad
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and he has a complete knowledge of various offenses
I think He has a good working knowledge of every offense, but there is a steep curve in the SEC and in the high levels of college football between functional OCs and good-elite OC.
I think We’ll have an offense that steamrolls lesser opponents, but the real test is what happens when the defenses get better.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:44 am to SammyTiger
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What is your biggest concern regarding Ensminger?
that the "good ol baw" system is alive and well within our program.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:47 am to 00 Tech Grad
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What is your biggest concern regarding Ensminger?
That he seemingly has a track record of turning down chances to be an OC. The news that he turned Miles down after Kragthorpe got sick really bothers me. Does the guy really have no ambition? Does he hate pressure that much?
Posted on 7/31/18 at 10:02 am to BayouBengals18
quote:I regress because I felt I've made myself perfectly redundant.
I’m going to go ahead and stop engaging now, before he says something else utterly incompetent.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 10:25 am to I20goon
Huh?
Posted on 7/31/18 at 6:42 pm to BayouBengals18
Sorry, that's from Sunny in Philadelphia and I couldn't resist.
Figured I'd blurt out something incompetent. Seemed apropos to what you had said.
Figured I'd blurt out something incompetent. Seemed apropos to what you had said.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 6:53 pm to 00 Tech Grad
I dont have a problem with him , but I do with negative posts like this !
Posted on 7/31/18 at 7:05 pm to bencoleman
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He's been coaching since the 80s do you honestly think he doesn't know how to coach?
There's a big difference between the guy who's been selling CutCo. for 30 years and the top salesman at Lockheed Martin cutting 8 figure deals on the regular for 10 years.
Just because someone is in their job for a long time, and just because they know "something," doesn't make them an expert, successful, or someone who can take a job to the next level.
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 7/31/18 at 7:14 pm to Freauxzen
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He's been coaching since the 80s do you honestly think he doesn't know how to coach?
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There's a big difference between the guy who's been selling CutCo. for 30 years and the top salesman at Lockheed Martin cutting 8 figure deals on the regular for 10 years.
Just because someone is in their job for a long time, and just because they know "something," doesn't make them an expert, successful, or someone who can take a job to the next level.
That bencoleman guy keeps making that same ridiculous strawman comment. No one has said that Ensminger can't coach. Is he the best as was promised? No.
If success in college football coaching were based on how long you've been coaching then Bill Snyder would be winning all of the championships.
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 7/31/18 at 7:22 pm to Goldrush25
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That bencoleman guy keeps making that same ridiculous comment. No one has said that Ensminger can't coach. Is he the best as was promised? No.
If success in college football coaching were based on how long you've been coaching then Bill Snyder would be winning all of the championships.
One of the most frustrating things in these discussions is the generally myopic view of people....
"Ensminger has been coaching for 30 years, that's all that matters...."
"The resume doesn't matter, we CAN'T know how good of a coach O is going to be...."
"Let's just let this year play out....."
"O loves LSU"
The reasons thrown out to be "positive" are mostly empty, outside of a few key ones.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:16 pm to jlovel7
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My biggest concern is we'll essentially have the inexperience of a first time OC mixed with the stubbornness of an older coach. Which to me seems like an absolute recipe for disaster.
Well I honestly haven't thought about it from this perspective. Now I'm concerned too lol
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:36 pm to SportTiger1
It’s all about the jimmies and joes not the Xs and Os. Burrow has already been developed under Meyer. I’m excited about this year because of this.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:47 pm to Goldrush25
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Is he the best as was promised? No.
Eh. I think Orgeron was talking specifically about Kiffin when he started saying this and he just carried it over to apply to Canada.
Am I irritated that there doesn't appear to have been a legitimate oc search? Sure. But I'm not going to get butt hurt because of a perceived broken promise. If Orgeron thinks he tried the "best" approach and it didn't work and he thinks the "familiar" approach is going to work better, then whatever. All I know is it better work or he needs to be shown the door with the swiftness.
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