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re: What is your biggest concern regarding Ensminger?

Posted on 7/30/18 at 7:21 pm to
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 7:21 pm to
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This is Orgerons dream job he knows damn well that weather he stays here or gets the boot will be the decision about hiring Ensminger and the offense. He felt comfortable with Ensminger there and thinks he gives us a good chance. Orgeron isn’t looking to be fired.


I said the same thing about Alleva after Les was let go


Then we ended up hiring Ed Orgeron
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13219 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 7:23 pm to
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Orgeron talks about 2016 every time he talks about Ensminger and his offense. And we know how enamored he is the the USC offenses of the mid-2000s. He is fixated with the past.
Agreed.

However the past can be a GREAT teacher.

Sometimes the lesson is as to what NOT to do. That's the trick to it.

That and recognizing past success doesn't translate into future wins. Even on a play by play level.

If it worked last time, and your opponent is worth their salt, it probably won't work the next. Why? Because your worthy opponent is going to take it away from you; leverage their adjustment against them.

If they are taking your edge away with a safety, TE post them to death. Don't run at the safety AND the LB with your pulling guard.... again.... and again.
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 7:27 pm to


WOW another bashing post
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4033 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 7:34 pm to
I agree with most of your concerns plus his ability to teach/understand the new offense and terminology. What I'm not concerned about is his ability to gameplan/scheme for teams on a weekly basis, he showed he could do that by running Cameron's offense better than Cameron himself except for the Bama game.
In that game, I think he was scared of the d-line's speed, quickness and strength and resorted back to tight formations to not have those gaps in hopes of better blocking and it backfired on him.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36949 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 7:45 pm to
Right now I have no concerns with Coach Enslinger. I'm excited to see LSU open up...finally. He impressed me in 2016 and I'm excited for the Offense this season - even more so for next year.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59239 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 7:48 pm to
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Right now I have no concerns with Coach Enslinger.


I’m shocked. Wait till your parents tell you that Santa isn’t real.
Posted by TigersJump
In a land far far away
Member since Feb 2018
2190 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 7:50 pm to
Have you ever seen Saban on the sidelines with "Joey" and basically any of his OC's? He'd go insane in front of the world and Joey made that offense work in spite of that little dick being a dick.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 7:58 pm to
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Right now I have no concerns with Coach Enslinger


No concerns? If you're thinking about this rationally you should have at least some concerns, even if they're minor.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36949 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 7:59 pm to
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No concerns? If you're thinking about this rationally you should have at least some concerns, even if they're minor.

What concerns should I have. Please tell
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59239 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:00 pm to
Elohel
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67971 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:01 pm to
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Right now I have no concerns with Coach Enslinger. I'm excited to see LSU open up...finally. He impressed me in 2016 and I'm excited for the Offense this season - even more so for next year.


There is no concern implementing his offense/system after he hasn't done it in decades?

He did well running someone else system but its very different running your own and implementing. To say there is zero concern is a bit naive don't you think?


Speaking objectively he called play and got the offense to where it wasn't as predictable and we had success. But look at the defenses he faced too....
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 8:05 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:04 pm to
I can't tell you what to be worried about. I can tell you that someone having not done something in 20 years concerns me. That he had to be talked into taking the job whereas others would kill for the job concerns me.

If you needed heart surgery how would you feel about having surgeon that hadn't done it in 20 years work on you? No concerns?

Don't you want the very best for LSU? Why don't we deserve the very best? That's not Ensminger, no disrespect to him.
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 8:09 pm
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36949 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:08 pm to
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There is no concern implementing his offense/system after he hasn't done it in decades?

In other words you don't think he can. That's great. Surely, that's why the bafoon Coach O picked him, right? Surely, that's why Aranda is so high on him, right? Isn't Steve responsible for quite a few LSU Offensive records? True or False?
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He did well running someone else system but its very different running your own and implementing

Imagine what he can do with his own system if he can do that with someone else's. He's an Offensive and Quarterback junkie that has been around this sport long before you were squirted from your paw paw.
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To say there is zero concern is a bit naive don't you think?

Call it what you wish. Again, right now, I have no concern. That's not that irrational since Fall Camp hasn't even started don't you think?

Posted by DArbonneDuke
D'Arbonne, LA
Member since Nov 2005
1462 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:09 pm to
My concern has been his reluctance to take the OC job at top tier program, his own. And why promises were made to hire the best coordinators out there. Love Ensminger though and hope the chemistry works.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36949 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:09 pm to
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he had to be talked into taking the job whereas others would kill for the job concerns me.

Do you really think we are to take you seriously?
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If you needed heart surgery how would you feel about having surgeon that hadn't done it in 20 years work on you? No concerns?

How old are you?
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
3448 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:10 pm to
There isn’t one person on this entire fricking site that can speak intelligently and knowledgeable about SE’s qualifications or lack thereof as an OC.


Zero. Not one swinging dick.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36949 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:10 pm to
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My concern has been his reluctance to take the OC job at top tier program, his own.

Because that reluctance was under Les. Do we need another conversation of Les' Offensive philosophy?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:13 pm to
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Because that reluctance was under Les. Do we need another conversation of Les' Offensive philosophy?




Ensminger is on record as saying he didn't want to be considered for the job in 2016, after Les was fired. Even Ree has said this.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67971 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:13 pm to
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In other words you don't think he can. That's great.


I never said that you moron. I just said I had some concern how its going to go considering its been a while since he has done this. Is that not cause for concern???


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Imagine what he can do with his own system if he can do that with someone else's. He's an Offensive and Quarterback junkie that has been around this sport long before you were squirted from your paw paw.


I don't have words....

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Call it what you wish. Again, right now, I have no concern. That's not that irrational since Fall Camp hasn't even started don't you think?



Thats fine, we can agree to disagree. Being skeptical does't mean he can't be successful. You are putting words into my mouth. Also skepticism doesn't mean we hope for him to fail.


I am trying to be rational here, you are not
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 8:15 pm
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4033 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:13 pm to
I agree with most of what you're saying but it wasn't SE'S fault he faced shitty defenses, at least he trashed them like we should have. I'm not concerned against the shitty defenses, I think he'll exploit them, just don't want to see the Bama game rear it's head again within his offense (that's my biggest concern).
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