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re: USC practically shut down our running game playing 2 high safeties all night
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:01 pm to StatMaster
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:01 pm to StatMaster
quote:They subbed their safeties with two crashing DEs.....now, why we didnt expose that will be a mystery till end of time.
You’re supposed to run a team out of that coverage and force them to bring another safety into the box. We could not. Offensive line play is not what it was supposed to be. That’s the most disappointing take away from the other night. That does not bode well for our future games against legit SEC defensive lines.
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:13 pm to J2thaROC
quote:the problem isn't at RB
We don’t have a dominant RB. It’s just that simple. They are just average RB at best.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:15 pm to ChatGPT of LA
quote:Emery did well, but one of his carries was for 39 yards. That was an outlier.
Emery had 10 carries for 61 yds
He should have gotten the ball 20 times.
Other than that one big run, he had 9 carries for 22 yards.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:20 pm to IM_4_LSU
I agree to read that crashing DE and keep it but I don’t think they want Nussmeier running because they are scared of having to play one of the backups. They will have to do it at some point to keep defenses honest.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:28 pm to Codythetiger
quote:Diggs was able to run well last year. Once he started suffering injuries, is when Daniels had to be super man running the ball every game.
JD had 1100+ rushing yards, the next person, Logan Diggs, was at about 650~ yards and it slides further down between the next 5 running backs
Diggs got no less than 97 yards when he carried the ball more than 9 times. In his first 6 games, 5 of them he carried the ball at least 14 times. He had no less than 5.3 ypc in any of those games. He was literally 3 yards away in two seperate games from having five 100+ yard rushing games in his first 6 games.
People, LSU can run the ball, and they will run the ball. They just have to make Kaleb Jackson the lead back and feed him. Also, don't run into ridiculous stacked fronts. We have receivers galore and Nuss isn't a chump. If i was them, I'd also have a Rickie Collins package. Let him run some read option during some games.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:32 pm to J2thaROC
quote:This right here is a lazy and casual thought. Anybody that thinks this should not be debating anybody here.
We don’t have a dominant RB. It’s just that simple. They are just average RB at best.
Truth of the matter is, they need to change up what they are doing in the run game and when to do it.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:51 pm to misey94
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Running inside zone from the shotgun with a mesh means slow developing and backs not getting a running start. You have to have elite run blocking for that to work, especially when the defense doesn’t respect the QB run or and RPO pass options, because we never MADE them respect them.
Yep. And also IMO if we have this big nasty OL that they are supposed to be then have them firing off the line and mauling guys and getting a push.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:57 pm to atltiger6487
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but one of his carries was for 39 yards
Yeah, because HE made it happen with his power and speed. You can't throw that out. That's moronic
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:58 pm to Johnjounior
Take away JE 66 yards, leaves 51 for 24 carries or 2.1 per carry.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 2:11 pm to StatMaster
No they did not play 2 high safeties. One was the leading tackler with 9 (6 SOLO) and their corner was in the box a ton and he had 6 tackles (3 solo) if I remember right. They shut down things because 52% of their tackles were SOLO. They were better tacklers and our line didn’t win the battles they needed to. There was diversity in plays without question. Execution was shite
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:45 pm to Fat Bastard
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my oh my how we miss those effective bubble screens jimbo used to run a nd those effective jet sweeps matt canada used to run. throw in some real toss sweeps(not that short toss we saw albeit it was effective to a degree) and you would have a nice outside game to open up the middle and spread them out up front. when they move up to play all that you hit them behind them with passes. playcalling on down and distance and play type was dogshit.
I would love to see at least 2 or 3 jets per game and multiple WR screens when the DBs play off. Then fake both if they are successful to make the defense think about where the ball is going.
I did like the motion run from Thomas, even though it went off tackle. We need more creative runs like that getting the defense’s eyes moving all over.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:48 pm to DUKE87
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Why didn’t we run a RPO or any trick plays. Nothing else was working much in 2nd half.
All of those slow mesh handoffs were options. Some were read options, but at least a few were likely RPOs. Nuss just never threw out of them. That has to happen going forward.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:52 pm to redfishfan
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We did this. It's like you people didn't watch the game. A quick bubble to Zavion Thomas for a pretty decent gain.
We need more when the opposing front 7 is constantly crashing the middle and doesn’t respect the outside because they don’t think you will stick with it. That’s what USC and they were right- we didn’t stick with runs outside and screens to make them back off. We played into their strategy.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:54 pm to Mandtgr47
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IMO, we should have been under center a lot more.
That is highly unlikely. However, we do run Pistol and that gives you more balance and power run options in the run game while retaining the same snap style.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:59 pm to eod
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leaves 51 for 24 carries or 2.1 per carry.
I'll go one step farther.....we ran the ball 9 times in the 4th quarter on 3 possessions....we had a net total of 15 yards. Outside of the 2 runs by emory on the TD drive, we ran it 11 times for 22 yards. We ran 4 times in the third quarter, and 9 in the 4th quarter....that was the difference in the game.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 6:16 pm to bignic26
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I'm all for modern offense but I guess I'm old school when it comes to the run game. I'm not saying go back to the I and run toss dive all game but I'd love to see some off tackle from the Pistol. Maybe even two tight. Give the back a running start and give the O line time to move guys up front.
I actually think they should some I form packages as part of the offense. Not that you will run it much or even every game but have that ability. If LSU would have had done some of these sunday night they would have fricked up USC's world IMO. Which would have forced them not to be so aggressive or if they had stayed that way you easily hit them over the top.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:24 pm to PureBlood
quote:lol
And CBK continued to run it despite there being 8 guys in the box.
How could there be 8 guys in the box if there were two high safeties?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:26 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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I actually think they should some I form packages as part of the offense. Not that you will run it much or even every game but have that ability. If LSU would have had done some of these sunday night they would have fricked up USC's world IMO. Which would have forced them not to be so aggressive or if they had stayed that way you easily hit them over the top.
1. Do we even have a fullback?
2. None of our tight ends look to be very good blockers
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:30 pm to SidewalkTiger
I think it’s been said, but when a team struggle like that you have to creative and have “extension of the run” plays. Things like bubble screens, wr end around gives, maybe even a wildcat when ya get to the redzone (and I hate wildcat) but ya get the point
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:56 pm to SidewalkTiger
quote:
1. Do we even have a fullback?
2. None of our tight ends look to be very good blockers
Not that I know of and I think that is a mistake. You could always use one of your most athletic O or D lineman.
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