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re: Update: Collins to speak with BR police after draft

Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:51 am to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:51 am to
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Smearing a young mans name might not be illegal, but it should be against ethics.

it's not unethical to conduct a murder investigation. again, why should they care what collins' job prospects are if they think he would be very helpful to their investigation?
Posted by BigSquirrel
Member since Jul 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:53 am to
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Johnny football wasn't connected to a murder investigation. The public and NFL tends to frown on murder more than being a drunken coked up douche.


I think you're missing the point. Any LSU fan who watched a TAMU VS LSU football game could tell you Manziel wasn't going to be an NFL QB. He wasn't good enough against a defense like LSU had to make the plays he made against other teams. And as a prototypical QB, he didn't have the arm. So when he goes to the NFL, what made any GM think he could do it against even faster, smarter players? Yet there he was, taken in round one. I'm not saying you don't draft him, but FFS, 1st round? What I'm saying is if somebody took JFF, and somebody took Tebow, somebody is going to draft La'El unless he is literally arrested today.

So translate that to a player who has no questions about his ability to play, and is one of the top 2 players at his position. A guy who has had no off the field issues in four years at LSU, and was the top lineman in the SEC... you can't tell me he's going undrafted, I think I might have an aneurism and y'all will be rid of me for good if he ends up a FA.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111439 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:53 am to
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t's not unethical to conduct a murder investigation. again, why should they care what collins' job prospects are if they think he would be very helpful to their investigation?
A poster made a good point earlier. The fact that he is the only name BRPD made public, seems like it could be some grandstanding
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 10:53 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73466 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:53 am to
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They could not be so public about the request for a meeting, therefore not totally railroading the kids ability to get drafted high.

for all you or any of us know that was intentional to try to get collins to come in and interview. he may have been shutting them out prior. and we still have no idea if collins did have any involvement. too many people are assuming he didn't because they like him as a football player. fact is none of you know yet you want to assume it's just BRPD and ESPN screwing the kid over for a news story
Posted by latiger89
Member since Sep 2006
448 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:54 am to
You guys are ridiculous, read what he said. He said nothing wrong with consulting with an attorney, Hey I agree with him, if I'm innocent I may consult with an attorney, but I going in and clearing my name asap. If while I'm being interviewed I see things headed in the wrong direction then I lawyer up. He is not making himself look good by not going in quickly and clearing the air. That is the perception and the investigator is thinking the same thing. Just my opinion and it means nothing.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87993 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:54 am to
BRPD didn't make it public.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87993 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:55 am to
You're an idiot. Catch up. The police aren't ready for him.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73466 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:55 am to
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I think you're missing the point. Any LSU fan who watched a TAMU VS LSU football game could tell you Manziel wasn't going to be an NFL QB. He wasn't good enough against a defense like LSU had to make the plays he made against other teams. And as a prototypical QB, he didn't have the arm. So when he goes to the NFL, what made any GM think he could do it against even faster, smarter players? Yet there he was, taken in round one. I'm not saying you don't draft him, but FFS, 1st round? What I'm saying is if somebody took JFF, and somebody took Tebow, somebody is going to draft La'El unless he is literally arrested today.

ho-lee shite
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:56 am to
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Smearing a young mans name might not be illegal, but it should be against ethics. I guess some people arent concerned about that.
I don't think the BRPD, or anyone else really, has said anything to smear his name at this point.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
39015 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:56 am to
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why should they care what collins' job prospects are if they think he would be very helpful to their investigation?


Again, ethical behavior is very simple.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73466 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:56 am to
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If while I'm being interviewed I see things headed in the wrong direction then I lawyer up.

most people are not smart enough or experienced enough to recognize when this is happening, thus the need for an attorney from the get go
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111439 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:57 am to
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BRPD didn't make it public
Do we actually know that? Serious question. How else would it become public? At first I thought it wasnt the BRPD, but now Im not sure
Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:57 am to
So much tard in this thread
Posted by latiger89
Member since Sep 2006
448 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:57 am to
If there not ready for him then why ask him to come in. Why make a big deal out of it at draft time. I guess I am an idiot when it comes to that point.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73466 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:57 am to
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Again, ethical behavior is very simple.

again, it's not unethical to conduct a murder investigation and interview all people who you think may be helpful
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86171 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:57 am to
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A poster made a good point earlier. The fact that he is the only name BRPD made public, seems like it could be some grandstanding


What else do you think it might mean?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87993 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:58 am to
Do you know where we are?
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
39015 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:59 am to
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fact is none of you know yet you want to assume it's just BRPD and ESPN screwing the kid over for a news story


The only fact that we actually have is that this would not be the first time, or the last, that BRPD and ESPN ran with misinformation to grand stand against an athlete. Again, I have deferred to his involvement when this whole thing is said and done, but if he is 100% not involved then BRPD went about this very poorly. ESPN, well what else does everyone expect, theyre trash.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178955 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:59 am to
"not ready for him"... this just doesn't help paint the picture of brpd not actively thinking that he could be a possible suspect...
Posted by oldschoolgreats
Member since Nov 2012
1902 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 11:00 am to
anyone on this board with any confidence in the BRPD is crazy. somehow it became public that they wanted to talk to him, now they are not ready. they had to know he was being drafted, why even bring up his name if you are not ready to talk. why even try to contact him if you are not ready to talk.

all the brpd has is something like a relative told them that its la'el child and la'el argued with her in the past.

if they could figure out a bar fight without a month worth of drama then I have no confidence in what they are doing.
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