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re: Unpopular opinion - Wade GOOD but not ELITE
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:38 am to ChatGPT of LA
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:38 am to ChatGPT of LA
Define elite since you refuse to do it
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Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:44 am to SCLSUMuddogs
quote:All under the age of 40.
He hasn’t gotten a long enough tenure at one spot to be elite. LSU was on track to becoming the dominate program in the SEC before the probe and COVID derailed everything. I mean shite his team won the conference and went to the sweet 16 in year 2. He’d have had us in the tourney 4/5 years if not for a global pandemic
Then he went on to coach McNeese to back to back NCAATs and actually advanced to round of 32. Unprecedented. Had never been done before in entire program history, but that’s not indicative of his coaching.
We have some true morons on this site.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:44 am to TigerFan244
All I want is to make the tournament almost every year.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:45 am to drizztiger
See, they won’t define it because then we’d have to get into actual facts and data and they don’t want that
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:46 am to redfish99
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He’s absolutely average X-O guy
Not true. Has literally jad teams in the top ten of the ncaa in offensive efficiency. That isnt by accident. I bet you cry about sTrEetbALl.
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Hes by no means a guaranteed tourney every years guy.
9 out of the last 10 years seems pretty close to a “guaranteed tourney every year guy”
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:47 am to TigerFan244
That's the thing with the idiots on this board.
They thinks WW is some kind of savior. LSU is and always will be mediocre or decent, at best.
LSU is pushing so much into basketball, yet not giving an actual championship coach in JJ, peanuts.
They thinks WW is some kind of savior. LSU is and always will be mediocre or decent, at best.
LSU is pushing so much into basketball, yet not giving an actual championship coach in JJ, peanuts.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:51 am to TigerFan244
He has not achieved elite results measured by postseason success. Anyone disputing that is being disingenuous.
However, that's not necessarily the focus of the analysis. The question what coach who HAS obtained elite postseason success would have come to LSU? The answer is likely no one. First, LSU basketball does not have the market cache of LSU football or baseball. Those are both destination jobs. Basketball isn't. So comparing them in that way is dumb. Two, there is no HOF, championship winning HC in the market who is also from Louisiana and had a son prominently attend LSU. Thus, thinking LSU could do what it did with Mulkey in WBB is likewise foolish.
For LSU basketball there were really three choices:
1. Keep the coach you had who has been awful for 4 years and hope an anomaly would happen without any tangible reason to think it would.
2. Hire a HC from a lower level conference and hope he turns out to be the next great HC.
3. Hire Wade, who you've seen win at YOUR school at the most consistent level in decades, and hope he can take the next step toward greater postseason success.
NONE of those options come with a guarantee for elite success. However, of the three, Wade is the safest bet in the sense the floor is high with the hope the ceiling is as well.
However, that's not necessarily the focus of the analysis. The question what coach who HAS obtained elite postseason success would have come to LSU? The answer is likely no one. First, LSU basketball does not have the market cache of LSU football or baseball. Those are both destination jobs. Basketball isn't. So comparing them in that way is dumb. Two, there is no HOF, championship winning HC in the market who is also from Louisiana and had a son prominently attend LSU. Thus, thinking LSU could do what it did with Mulkey in WBB is likewise foolish.
For LSU basketball there were really three choices:
1. Keep the coach you had who has been awful for 4 years and hope an anomaly would happen without any tangible reason to think it would.
2. Hire a HC from a lower level conference and hope he turns out to be the next great HC.
3. Hire Wade, who you've seen win at YOUR school at the most consistent level in decades, and hope he can take the next step toward greater postseason success.
NONE of those options come with a guarantee for elite success. However, of the three, Wade is the safest bet in the sense the floor is high with the hope the ceiling is as well.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:52 am to Chef Curry
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Offensively they seemed to play a lot of improvised street ball.
Thanks for letting us know your thoughts are garbage when it comes to basketball.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 9:59 am to FWBTigah
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FWBTigah
quote:Speaking of.
That's the thing with the idiots on this board.
quote:Yeah, okay. Baseball gets its own share of donations. Basketball is about to go from $1-2 mil/yr in profit, to likely $4-6 mil a year within the next 2-3 years. Baseball has won 2 of the last 3 NCs and still is in the red for $1 million a year. And I’m an LSU Baseball fan as well, but at least know the facts.
LSU is pushing so much into basketball, yet not giving an actual championship coach in JJ, peanuts.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 11:03 am to Madking
Thats what I thought. A little backtracking bitch, scared if his shadow.
Tell me, you agree with this ELITE individual resigning thru an email? After what NC St gave and offered him? Is that character? Is it elite? Is it anything that rises to a decent moral man?
Now, woth that outta the way....go ahead and give me his "elite" basketball qualification
Tell me, you agree with this ELITE individual resigning thru an email? After what NC St gave and offered him? Is that character? Is it elite? Is it anything that rises to a decent moral man?
Now, woth that outta the way....go ahead and give me his "elite" basketball qualification
Posted on 3/27/26 at 11:12 am to Alt26
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For LSU basketball there were really three choices:
1. Keep the coach you had who has been awful for 4 years and hope an anomaly would happen without any tangible reason to think it would.
2. Hire a HC from a lower level conference and hope he turns out to be the next great HC.
3. Hire Wade, who you've seen win at YOUR school at the most consistent level in decades, and hope he can take the next step toward greater postseason success.
LSU went with No 3, and rightfully so.
Wade has never had a losing season while winning almost 70 percent of his games and earning eight NCAA Tournament bids in the last nine seasons (not counting the COVID-canceled 2020 postseason).
From 2017-22 with the Tigers, he was 105-51 overall and 55-33 in the SEC. In the last four seasons, he won 48 regular-season SEC games, tying for the second-most of any league team over that period.
His tenure was the last time the Tigers’ program had a pulse and a palpable vibe. His 2018-19 team won the SEC regular-season championship and advanced to the Sweet 16. He had three 20-win seasons in his last four years.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 11:15 am to TigerFan244
Barely won more than half his games at NC State??? TF can you read or you just plain stupid. He was there 1 fkn here and got them to the tournament.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 12:05 pm to ChatGPT of LA
You can’t define your position because you’re too chicken shite and too ignorant to do so. When you actually even attempt to make your point I’ll counter with the information that will refute it.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 12:13 pm to jtran1988
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Now he actually has a legit NIL budget to build a championship team.
So does everyone else.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 12:50 pm to spslayto
I understand the argument that Wade is good, but not elite. I think he brings more excitement rather than better coaching. That 2019 team was young, but super talented, and it was Wade's best performing team. That team didn't require him to coach up lesser talent.
As far as winning the 2019, that's not as great an achievement as it would be winning it recently, because the SEC has been much better the last 2 years than it was in 2019. Even though 7 teams made the tourny in 2019, 2 lost in the first round. This year there were only 8 teams in the tourny, but all have advanced. Of course, 2025 had 14 teams with 2 reaching the final four, and Florida winning. Auburn won the SEC tourny in 2019, but was a 5th seed in the NCAA, and reached the final 4 in the NCAA, while LSU was a 3rd seed in the NCAA and lost in the round of 16, so arguably LSU underperformed in the NCAA tourny.
As far as winning the 2019, that's not as great an achievement as it would be winning it recently, because the SEC has been much better the last 2 years than it was in 2019. Even though 7 teams made the tourny in 2019, 2 lost in the first round. This year there were only 8 teams in the tourny, but all have advanced. Of course, 2025 had 14 teams with 2 reaching the final four, and Florida winning. Auburn won the SEC tourny in 2019, but was a 5th seed in the NCAA, and reached the final 4 in the NCAA, while LSU was a 3rd seed in the NCAA and lost in the round of 16, so arguably LSU underperformed in the NCAA tourny.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 12:58 pm to TigerFan244
Wade makes LSU Basketball Fun and Entertaining while always fielding competitive teams! He also just get “IT”! Can’t really explain what “it” is but he just makes you want to like him and his teams.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 1:00 pm to TigerFan244
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Wade GOOD but not ELITE
Fair point. While at LSU I thought his tourney teams had warts that led to early elimination. The lack of discipline to stick with & run their Offense often led to panicking and getting off bad shots.
With that said I think he knows what NIL and the portal can do for a program and he has seen firsthand what it takes to compete & succeed in both the SEC & ACC.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 1:07 pm to HC87
quote:Defense was the issue during his first tenure at LSU, not offense. And he admitted as much and tried to fix it. Offense was consistently ranked very high nationally in efficiency. Defense needed to catch up. His first try at a fix didn’t work, but his last season defense showed huge improvement, but unfortunately Xavier Pinson got injured. Offense took a step back, but he was trying to get that balance. That’s key.
Fair point. While at LSU I thought his tourney teams had warts that led to early elimination. The lack of discipline to stick with & run their Offense often led to panicking and getting off bad shots.
Only 1 team has won the national championship without being rated top 20 in both offensive and defensive efficiency on Kenpom.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 1:10 pm to TigerFan244
Dale Brown was never elite.
Posted on 3/27/26 at 1:31 pm to jtran1988
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Dude was great with a under the table budget. Now he actually has a legit NIL budget to build a championship team.
Is it your contention that WW had spectacularly talented basketball teams compared to the rest of the league?
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