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re: How come everyone is good until we play them
Posted by Lapaz on 9/29/26 at 4:45 pm to Dawg Collar
According to LINK LSU’s strength of schedule is the 4th toughest.
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After we play them oh they're no good.
Just watch as we go through the schedule. People saying Kentucky is improved and cowbell has a QB - but after we destroy them - oh they weren't any good. It's a long season.
Yep. Clemson was top 25 until we destroyed them. La Tech hung 80 points on a very weak team, but was considered a top 75 team, until we destroyed them. Ole Miss was top 20, and were playing at home with all the emotion. We were their super bowl, yet they barely beat us, and now they are locked into a higher ranking than us because it is perceived that they are better, even though we dominated the 2nd half. Texas A&M was a top 25 until we destroyed them.
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New coaches starting with an empty roster is pretty common. It's not like Wade faced some unheard of situation.
As he discussed months ago, and again last week, this is a purposeful approach to try to make LSU not just competitive, but really good this season. Over the last decade we've seen a bigger and bigger impact of international players in the US. Illinois went to the Final Four last with several international players making up the core of their roster. The reason is because for the first time ever it's more lucrative for many international players to play US college basketball than pro basketball overseas. That anomaly is going to be closed by the NCAA. Wade knows that and has mentioned it multiple times as the reason why LSU is taking this approach. It's a big swing in hopes turning it in to a big payoff immediately.
Best case scenario this team is really good right away. Worst case, LSU is a bottom half SEC team and essentially in the same place it has been for the last 4 years with roster building returning to "normal" next season.
After sitting through a 4 year waste of time that was NEVER going to be good under the previous coach, I'm willing to live with the downside risk of one more year of poor results for the potential benefit of a great season.
Best case is way better, but the worst case is way worse. We could've still been way better if we had pursued 9 clearly eligible high quality players, and then 6 risky high reward players. With the money Wade has to work with, we could've gotten 9 players that could've made us a top 25 team, and then the other 6 could've given us a high chance of a national championship. Instead we have 3 quality players, 1 mediocre, 1 low risk, 8 high risk, and 2 unknown risks.
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Or let Leavitt put a couple on the board first?
Clark needs some playing time and I'd love to see Longstreet
The smart thing to do is to rest him. Even moving around to set his feet can result in injury. Also, trying to not get injured sometimes can cause injuries. Also, passing with poor form to prevent injuries doesn't do him any good. R&R is the most important thing to make sure he doesn't re-aggravate the injury. There is very little to be gained from a couple of series that is worth the risk of re-aggravating the hamstring.
This would be a perfect game for Clark to get a half and Longstreet to get a half.
He seems to be in sync with his receivers now, so I don’t think he needs more reps. If he wants some reps, he can get reps in practice when there is a lower risk of injury. It is not worth reaggravating an injury. He needs R&R more than reps. McNeese is a perfect opponent to give others reps.
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It was stated that it could not get worse.
And I asked if you thought the worst tenure in program history could get worse by hiring the coach with the highest winning percentage in program history. But you didn’t answer.
You changed the subject. I don't have a comment on whether McMahon was the worst in program history, and I think Wade will eventually be better, but you missed the point I made. The point is that this season will be worse, unless we get more players eligible, and that was a response to someone saying it could not be worse. I'm not referring to long term success in future years. Do you believe that this season would be a disaster if we end up with only the current 4 plus walkons? Not asking if it is likely, but the reality is that is a reasonable possibility.
re: Wade on risky roster building and prior regime: 'we can't be worse than what we've been'
Posted by Lapaz on 9/25/26 at 1:31 pm to Circle K Beggar
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Eh not really. Wade was seen as toxic after his firing. But he ended up getting two P4 head gigs after.
McMahon is completely finished at being a P4 head coach. His whole career (aside from the LSU charity case) has been at the midmajor level. That’s where he belongs.
Well Nostradamus, that remains to be seen. Wade turned McNeese around to earn his way back. I know you're blinded, but McMahon may succeed elsewhere too.
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I don't expect to only have the current 4
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Thanks for ending your own argument
I was never arguing that we would only have the current 4. You totally missed the point of my posts. It was stated that it could not get worse. I responded to that. Even when CMM lost his whole roster and filled it with whatever was leftover, this would be worse. I hope and believe that some of the remaining will be eligible, but the worst case would be a disaster for this season.
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Well you can hope that happens but comparing a tenure to your fantasy season is a false equivalence
If you can find any post I have made that hopes for failure, then I'll wire you $1000! You won't, because I haven't. I don't expect to only have the current 4. I expect Ruzic, but I'm not confident on any of the others. The current 4 only would be a disaster. Ruzic will help a little, but we'll still be atrocious. If we get a few of the others in question, then we'll have a decent season. If we get them all, we'll be a top 10 to 20 team. Do you understand now?
re: Wade on risky roster building and prior regime: 'we can't be worse than what we've been'
Posted by Lapaz on 9/25/26 at 1:12 pm to Circle K Beggar
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This is sickening. Woodward was such a terrible AD. Getting rid of he and BK in the same week will turn out to be the turning point for this athletic program.
McMahon is the WORST coach of a major sport that has been at LSU in the last 50 years. The fact that he hasn’t caught on elsewhere yet is very telling. These guys live for coaching. They usually never want to take a year off.
Even your favorite coach in the world, that can do no wrong, didn't coach in the 22-23 season, after getting fired. I guess that was telling too.
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So the worst tenure in program history which included the worst conf record in program history twice is going to be surpassed by the coach with the highest win% in program history?
The comment was made that it could not get worse. If he only gets the current 4 plus walkons, you should be able to answer the question for this coming season. He may go on to be very successful in future seasons, but the worst case for next season would be far worse than any McMahon seasons. We won't just lose SEC games. We'll break records for loss margins.
re: Wade on risky roster building and prior regime: 'we can't be worse than what we've been'
Posted by Lapaz on 9/25/26 at 12:22 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Mcmahon’s teams were the worst teams in the sec. By definition it cant get worse than that, mediocrity lover.
You’re very weak minded and very dumb. No one knows, least of all you, how many people will be eligible, but the idea that it can’t get worse than McMahon is dumb and fantastical. The results against the SEC was terrible during McMahon, but if the worst case happens and we only can field the current 4 plus walkons, then it is a fantasy to think that it wouldn’t be even worse than those McMahon teams. That was my response to the point that it CAN’T get worse. Your hatred for CMM blinds you. The best coach in the world wouldn’t be able to do well. It would be an even more mediocre product.
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Over the last four years: LSU had the fewest wins in conference play. It was the only one of 16 SEC programs to not make at least one NCAA tournament. Its cumulative order of finish in the conference was dead last. Its head coach had the worst SEC winning percentage in the last hundred years of the program. Its record against top 25 opponents, as ranked at the time of the game, was 4-24…0-16 in the last 2 years. By every objective measure, LSU was the worst basketball program in the SEC. So with respect to any meaningful measure, no, LSU cannot get any worse.
If we only have the 4 official players, plus walkons, we will be the worst team in the SEC and worse than any of the McMahon teams. It’s fantasyland to believe otherwise.
re: Seriously...who is on our basketball team?
Posted by Lapaz on 9/24/26 at 12:31 pm to Lsuray70443
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15 players. You are on a need to know basis. Nobody can scout us or gather film. Other opposing coaches not happy either
You're probably kidding, but 13 of the 15 players are known, so our opponents can essentially prepare for that roster. However, there isn't a lot of long range scouting in basketball, so that's not a serious advantage, nor a believable reason. Besides, our first tough opponent is La Tech, and they'll have 6 days to prepare for the roster that played against New Orleans.
Wade claims he is protecting the players that aren't listed on the roster. If any of the unlisted 13 have legal coverage, I don't understand why it is in their interest to not be formally added to the roster. Would they or LSU be punished?
I think Wade is either having fun yanking our chain by not listing players on the roster that he really believes will be cleared, or he is lying about his confidence and buying time. Also, if they are really practicing, it doesn't seem hard for reporters to park themselves by the gym to confirm that, and then report on it, rather than everyone having to rely on unconfirmed sources. I don't simply take him at his word.
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Wade seemed pretty unsure that it would all be settled by the first exhibition
Wade didn't say all would be "settled". That implies that the work on eligibility will be done. What Wade said is he'll know the status on all of the players by the first game. I'm not sure if he meant the first exhibition or first regular season game. Obviously LSU will have to report its roster before their games, so we would have to know the players' status to understand how playing them would impact LSU. Regardless of the status of the players by the first game, LSU, the NCAA and SEC may not allow the matter to be settled.
re: Wade on risky roster building and prior regime: 'we can't be worse than what we've been'
Posted by Lapaz on 9/23/26 at 6:36 pm to Jack Crevalle
Except we can be worse. We at least beat the weak teams. If he gets a few more of the players, then yes, we’ll be better. If we end up with all but the current 4, plus walk-ons, then we will be worse.
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LSU coach Will Wade says it's been cool seeing a team come together from so many different backgrounds, but has some aspects that have really connected the whole group and brought them all together early in this preseason process.
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Will Wade emphasizes that LSU has a full roster signed and has been operating since the beginning of school as a typical basketball program in terms of full practices and preparation.
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Will Wade asked about the forecast for Louisiana high school recruiting, particularly with a run right now of top basketball prospects having been top football prospects as well. "Well, I can't comment on that right now," Will Wade laughs. Says he does see some good prospects in the coming 2027, 2028, 2029 classes that appear to have basketball as top priority athletically.
It's good to know that the whole roster has been practicing, because that was one of my major concerns. I don't understand why they don't list them on the official roster if they have a TRO or preliminary injunction that allows them to play.
re: MBB Offseason '26 Transfer Portal / HS Tracker
Posted by Lapaz on 9/23/26 at 11:53 am to ellessuuuu
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Temporarily Eligible under TRO; Preliminary Injunction Hearing 9/29
6. Dent - 25
7. Clark - 152
That is not 100% accurate. Skyy Clark was originally part of the California case, but withdrew (voluntarily dismissed his claims) from that case and joined the Kentucky case, Wells vs. NCAA (Jefferson County Circuit Court). A preliminary injunction has been granted in that case and the NCAA lost its request for emergency appeal. So as of today, Skyy Clark has a preliminary injunction and there will be no emergency appeal of that decision. Given that we are in September, there is a good chance that the Kentucky state court won't have a trial on the merits until after April 2027.
Clark should be good.
ETA. News reports are a little murky as to next steps. Could have some hurdles left to clear.
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I'm not a lawyer, but doesn't a TRO stop the NCAA from enforcing its rule for a very brief period, but the a preliminary injunction allows the NCAA to enforce its 5 for 5 rule? If the TRO prevents the NCAA from enforcing its 5 for 5 rule, doesn't that mean they can only enforce their prior rules that only allows 4 years of eligibility, so that would still make Clark and Dent ineligible? Doesn't the TRO expire after the prel injunct hearing on 9/29? If I understand it correctly, then it seems that Dent and Clark would only be eligible with a favorable judgement from the injunction hearing.
re: Ugochukwu, Bashir, Nunez, and Dioubate
Posted by Lapaz on 9/22/26 at 4:33 pm to ScotReiver
In the optimistic case that we get 7 eligible, including Rucik, Dent and Clark, I think the games against McNeese and UCF will be close. If they are not eligible, we will get embarrassed.
re: MBB Offseason '26 Transfer Portal / HS Tracker
Posted by Lapaz on 9/10/26 at 4:30 pm to ellessuuuu
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I hope you are right, but as of today, there is a real possibility that we end up with 5 players on the current roster eligible (Mo, Divine, Bashir, Nunez, and Ruzik).
If the NCAA enforces its new guidance on international players, Santos, Niang, Dessert are going to need litigation to be eligible.
Dent and Clark are going to need a favorable ruling at the end of this month in the California 5 for 5 case (when the tide seems to be turning against players in other 5 for 5 cases that have gotten to the preliminary injunction or appellate stage). I think at this point, the odds of RJ Luis ever putting on an LSU jersey is very low.
I assume the 7 you're predicting are Mo, Divine, Bashir, Nunez, Ruzik, Dent and Clark. Those seem like the most likely, but like you said, Dent and Clark need favorable rulings, so we could end up with just 5 of the currently committed becoming eligible by the beginning of the season. IF that happens, then we would have to use enrolled walkons to fill the roster. We would have to delve into the pool of uncommitted transfers, but I assume they wouldn't be able to join the team until they enroll, so they would miss the early season. The situation is crazy!
re: MBB Offseason '26 Transfer Portal / HS Tracker
Posted by Lapaz on 9/10/26 at 12:13 pm to Portcityblues
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on the bright side. I was on campus Monday and drove past two Asian students walking to the UREC with a Basketball in hand. they were both in the 5'7" -5'8" range but I am sure they could help us out
They're taller than Spud Webb!
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