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Universal Basic/High Income theories

Posted on 10/9/26 at 10:53 am
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
29127 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 10:53 am
I have lots of questions but let’s say it’s instituted world wide… would that stop illegal immigration to the USA. Would you even want to live in the US? Why not live like a king in Hawaii, Key West, Yellow Stone etc…
Posted by BWHLSU
Member since Jul 2026
384 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 10:54 am to
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Would you even want to live in the US? Why not live like a king in Hawaii, Key West, Yellow Stone etc…



I have some geography news for ya
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
21877 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 10:56 am to
Have you traveled around to a couple of countries and stayed in the area that you could afford?

How would you build a house at yellow stone on basic income?

How good are the pilots going to be on the flight over to Hawaii under this arrangement?
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17503 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 10:56 am to
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let’s say it’s instituted world wide…


Paid for by USAID?

Is that you Barak?
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
27561 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 11:11 am to
Awe c'mon, man. You know how we all want the very same things because we are all alike and equal, therefore the utopia we dream of will finally be here.

Will that be EVOO or ghee?
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
60725 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 11:22 am to
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I have lots of questions


I can answer them all with one answer:

-UBI doesn't work.
Posted by AtticusOSullivan
Member since Mar 2016
3146 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 11:23 am to
Whos buildng the house if were all paid not to work?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
92387 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 11:29 am to
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Whos buildng the house if were all paid not to work?


The way this would work is everyone, including Elon, gets a basic low income. If you want more money to be able afford anything, you will still have to work.



Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
7523 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 11:34 am to
Ask Cuba how it's working out, UBI is another word for socialism
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15552 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 11:39 am to
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Would you even want to live in the US? Why not live like a king in Hawaii, Key West, Yellow Stone etc…


Um...
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15287 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 11:41 am to
everything would eventually go up. the new basic income would be the old below poverty line, then you would need to increase it again.......preputial inflation

like minimum wage..... raising minimum wage initially tightens the gap between skilled and unskilled labor. eventually you pay skilled labor more because they have a "skill" that demands more pay.

in the end, everything costs more and it will equalize





Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
7347 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 11:49 am to
We have welfare. This would work the same way.

Alms for the poor. We'd return to the mean of human history: a massive, impoverished underclass and a tiny, ultra-powerful elite that abuses them. For alms.
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
5104 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 11:56 am to
UBI was pie in the sky; UHI is pie in the sky while high.

Study Geography and Economics before you post again.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
42282 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 11:59 am to
If universal inflation and universal cost of living and universal white replacement theory follow it, UBI won’t work for me.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45814 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 12:09 pm to
The only rational case I have seen is we cut all social programs and just send everyone a check for being a citizen. I would be on board with that IF all social programs are gone. The money would come from the world accessing OUR economy.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
64328 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

I can answer them all with one answer:

-UBI doesn't work.
UBI and “unlimited abundance” are bait to get the masses to accept the destruction AI is bringing to our own agency and autonomy.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
64328 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 12:14 pm to
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The way this would work is everyone, including Elon, gets a basic low income. If you want more money to be able afford anything, you will still have to work.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
64328 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 12:18 pm to
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The only rational case I have seen is we cut all social programs and just send everyone a check for being a citizen. I would be on board with that IF all social programs are gone.

You’re describing one huge social program. Unfortunately collectivism doesn’t become more successful with greater scale. The opposite.
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The money would come from the world accessing OUR economy.
This is the definition of a trade deficit. And we’d need to continue printing more money infinitely to pull it off successfully.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45814 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 1:53 pm to
It would be swapping a huge social program (welfare, social security, etc) for a smaller one. Yes. I didn't say it makes complete sense. Just the most rational one of all the UI arguments.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
20943 posts
Posted on 10/9/26 at 2:44 pm to
Universal basic income worldwide seems like a really great idea. Free money and no need for getting out of bed. Why not just put a million, strike that 10 million, in every single person’s hands so we can all be rich. No one needs to be garbage men, work at steel mills or anything lumber. We can just wish food and beverages to be there upon demand.
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