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re: Travinski or Milazzo
Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:31 am to CamdenTiger
Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:31 am to CamdenTiger
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I’m all for Travinski in for as long as we need him, but you could tell he was tired by the ninth, so I don’t get him being in on Defense up 8 runs, like last game. When he had that passed ball in the ninth , I was just asking “ why”? But whatever, his bat is arguably the hottest in the last month….
Thought the same thing, after he batted in 8th was surprise dhe caught the 9th of the last game, Jay has been making defensive subs all year and that seemed like a no brainer move to go to Milazzo there.
Travinski clearly isnt used to catching 3 games in a short time judging from his performance in game 3 from the regional. He really did struggle getting in front of the ball, think it was 5 wild pitches and 1 passed ball that game. It didnt matter when we won by a ton of runs this past weekend in game 3, but that can play a lot different if we only plate 6-7 runs instead of 13. Giving up 6 free passes is not something you can do in a tighter game. Now not all those 5 wild pitches go on Travinski but our pitchers arent bad enough to throw that wild in a game it would cause 5 free passes, Trav simply needs to block better. We got very lucky Oregon State was absolutely terrible with RISP that game (1 for 12) it didnt cost us a ton.
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 9:33 am
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:51 am to MetArl15
That’s right, forgot about him being left handed
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:02 am to geauxtigers33
You are probably remembering too much from last year. This year Milazzo has been a 300 hitter most of the year.
He ain't no 2023 Travinski though.
He ain't no 2023 Travinski though.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:06 am to Lester Earl
Is Neal not a 3rd option? I knew he had an injury a while back, but thought we haven't seen him at all because of how good Travinski has been.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:23 am to KWL85
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Is Neal not a 3rd option? I knew he had an injury a while back, but thought we haven't seen him at all because of how good Travinski has been.
Think he's done for the season. He wasn't even on the active roster last weekend.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:35 am to drizztiger
This is one of the better threads we have had lately. Good discussion without attacking posters.
No easy decision for Jay. Easiest thing to agree on is Travinski is batting. Milazzo catching Skenes is worth considering.
Beloso following Travinski has been on fire. We've seen recent back to back hits from them aside from the consecutive dingers.
Pearson has been so hot lately that it is hard to pull him. He was really seeing the ball well in the regional.
Tre needs to be at first.
Before this weekend, you could consider pulling Dugas because he was struggling. But he is back to form, and none of the other guys discussed play 2B.
Probably ends up the same lineup we just saw.
No easy decision for Jay. Easiest thing to agree on is Travinski is batting. Milazzo catching Skenes is worth considering.
Beloso following Travinski has been on fire. We've seen recent back to back hits from them aside from the consecutive dingers.
Pearson has been so hot lately that it is hard to pull him. He was really seeing the ball well in the regional.
Tre needs to be at first.
Before this weekend, you could consider pulling Dugas because he was struggling. But he is back to form, and none of the other guys discussed play 2B.
Probably ends up the same lineup we just saw.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:35 am to KWL85
Neal is out for year. Wasn’t even in uniform last weekend
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:40 am to TigerAte91
If it aint broke don't fix it.
Line up stays AS IS!!!!!!
Line up stays AS IS!!!!!!
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:41 am to KWL85
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You are probably remembering too much from last year. This year Milazzo has been a 300 hitter most of the year.
His BA was above .300 most of the year, but that’s not the same thing as being a .300 hitter most of that time. His BA was crazy high early in the year, which effectively masked the fall back down to earth after that. He hit only .239 in conference play with no extra base hits. He was 2/19 to end conference play.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:48 am to LSUalum2000
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Word I'm hearing (from a young guy in my office that used to be a manager and still friends with several of the players) is a broken thumb
This would explain the decisions this past weekend.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:52 am to TeddyPadillac
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is that why Milazzo has thrown out 4 out of 15 this year, while Travinski has thrown out 4 out of 9?
It's why Milazzo has thrown out 25 of 50 in his career at LSU while Travinski is 7 of 27.
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If not for the 4 passed balls Travinski let go by this last game trying to frame pitches like a 12 year old, he would have 3 passed balls to Milazzo's 1,
That statement is not at all a glowing statement about Travinski's defense. Just the opposite.
Milazzo has 6 PB in his career at LSU in 881 chances, that is 1 per every 146.8 chances. Traveinski has 16 in 494 chances, that is 1 per every 30.9 chances. Almost 5 times the rate.
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while Milazzo also had a very dumb catchers interference at a critical point in a game as well.
I would say unfortunate rather than dumb. Those happen occasionally, the bat grazed the top of the mitt. Milazzo has had 3 in his career at LSU, Travinski has had 1 So that does favor Travinski but not by much considering Milazzo has had almost twice the chances for this to happen.
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The difference between Milazzo and Travinksi behind the plate isn't that big at all in terms of giving up runs or extra bases.
It does tilt in Milazzo's favor by a bit but not enough to offset Travinski's or Beloso's run production nor enough to take Tre's defense at first out of play for Beloso to play first base.
The more I think about all this, the more I see it as an overall team decision, rather than a catcher decision. If you want Tre at first and Beloso and Travinski in the batting order, there is no way to have Milazzo in the lineup.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 10:53 am to LSUgrad88
Not optimal moving forward and that would explain this weekend. At one point Milazzo did come in to warm up the pitcher Sunday. Considering he is still in uniform I would guess its his glove hand and he can still catch but cant hit.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:02 am to mdomingue
We keep discussing Milazzo or Travinsky to start against Kentucky, but the question I want answered is whether Milazzo is even available. There simply is no reasonable explanation, other than injury, why Milazzo would not have entered at least one of the last two games against Oregon State. We had a one run lead in the 9th, Hayden had batted in the bottom of the eight, and still Milazzo wasn’t inserted in the top of the 9th (which again was potentially huge considering a really poor passed ball sent the runner to second base with two outs). Considering Jay has subbed Milazzo in those situations pretty much every game since Hayden became the starting catcher a few weeks ago, it seemed really strange. And then on Monday we are up 9 runs and we don’t sub in for Hayden at all late (when he was clearly gassed). What other reason could there be other than Milazzo is dinged? It would be great if the idiots who are paid to cover this team would at least ask Johnson the question.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:04 am to LSUgrad88
There was a real threat of extras Sunday I don't think Travinski was coming out regardless of Milazzo's availability.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 11:22 am to LSUgrad88
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but the question I want answered is whether Milazzo is even available
It's a good question but one I have no information on. Because I have no sources
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It would be great if the idiots who are paid to cover this team would at least ask Johnson the question.
They can ask but Johnson is very reticent about giving out injury information in press conferences. And I suspect there is no good reason to do that other than curiosity.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 12:59 pm to IM_4_LSU
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This is an inaccurate assessment.
what part of that is innaccurate?
Catchers in the major league call the pitches.
coaches in college call the pitches.
I get what y'all are saying that he may prefer a certain catcher, but i would think at that level, you simply expect a catcher to catch/block the fricking ball. I would not worry about who's catching when i throw a curve ball purposely in the dirt. He better fricking stop it, and if he doesn't, then it's on the coach to put the right guy back there. Skenes preference should align with the coaches preference, which is to win the game with the best players on the field. That's Travinski by a mile.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 1:05 pm to josh336
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Josh336
Don’t think. Just stop. Bad take. Boo this man
Posted on 6/7/23 at 1:09 pm to mdomingue
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The more I think about all this, the more I see it as an overall team decision, rather than a catcher decision. If you want Tre at first and Beloso and Travinski in the batting order, there is no way to have Milazzo in the lineup.
that's the biggest thing that hasn't been talked about much.
Tre needs to be at 1st base. There's a big difference between him at 1st and anyone else, much bigger than the difference between Milazzo and Travinksi.
Everyone knows Milazzo is a better catcher. His bat is terrible, and people touting is .300 average are doing so blindly. he racked up those hits against sub par competition early on, and he has 1 extra base hit all season long, and only 1 sacrifice fly all year long. If he's batting with men on base, the only thing you can do with him is have him bunt the runners over. All he does is hit weak ground balls, he's just found a few more holes than normal this year against sub par pitching. His 2 for his last 19 against good competition is more indicative of who he is.
I for one love the fact that Pearson is batting 9th. I don't care what the situation is, who's on base, how many outs there are, the score, doesn't matter, whoever we have batting i have confidence in them to come through. Thompson might be slumping a bit, as well as Dugas, but i don't think anyone would feel bad about having to rely on them to get a base hit with a runner on 2nd and 2 outs down by 1. I have zero confidence in Milazzo swinging the bat in the clutch.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 1:12 pm to TigerAte91
In Omaha I think a fair argument could be made for both.
Runs are at a in a park that plays much larger than most SEC venues so
1-You need to be as good defensively as possible and cannot afford extra bases
2-You cannot leave RUNS and RBI on the bench
Runs are at a in a park that plays much larger than most SEC venues so
1-You need to be as good defensively as possible and cannot afford extra bases
2-You cannot leave RUNS and RBI on the bench
Posted on 6/7/23 at 1:13 pm to josh336
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I think we def need to start milazzo behind the plate with skenes on the bump
people keep saying this and Skenes has thrown to all 3 catchers.
dude pummels the strike zone. it’s out more wild pitchers id make an argument for Milazzo for.
that being said:
Travis batting .427 and smashing g homers
Beloso has 14 hits in hisnlast 32 AB and has hit like 3 HR.
I would argue the drop off between Morgan and Beloso at 1st is worse than Milazzo to Travinski
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