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re: Travinski or Milazzo

Posted on 6/7/23 at 7:47 am to
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 7:47 am to
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You dont take a guy swinging one of the hottest bats in the country the last 2 months to avoid a couple shitty plays behind the plate...sorry, you just dont


They wouldn’t take Travinski out the lineup. They would put him at DH and take Beloso out the lineup. The problem is Beloso is also hitting well right now and you can’t take his bat out.
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 7:53 am to
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Im sure jay has been working on a 3rd catcher, prob jones or frey if we had to in a pinch


One inning Monday when Travinski had been on base and was in the dugout putting his gear on, Frey came out to start warming up the pitchers.
Posted by LSUalum2000
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 7:57 am to
Travinski gonna have to keep getting it done, I don't think we'll be seeing Milazzo the rest of the way. Word I'm hearing (from a young guy in my office that used to be a manager and still friends with several of the players) is a broken thumb. Certainly not official so TIFWIW.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 7:58 am to
Has he logged even 1 inning at C in a game this year ?
Posted by ABEAR29
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:07 am to
it was 3 pass balls total, all game, not 1 per innning
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 8:08 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:38 am to
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Travinskis arm is good. Milazzo s arm is great.


is that why Milazzo has thrown out 4 out of 15 this year, while Travinski has thrown out 4 out of 9?

If not for the 4 passed balls Travinski let go by this last game trying to frame pitches like a 12 year old, he would have 3 passed balls to Milazzo's 1, while Milazzo also had a very dumb catchers interference at a critical point in a game as well.


The difference between Milazzo and Travinksi behind the plate isn't that big at all in terms of giving up runs or extra bases.

Milazzo is hitting better this year, but he's still hitting mostly grounders. They are just finding the hole a bit more this year. 1 double, no homers on 24 hits, and 1 sac fly all year. He does have 6 sacrifice bunts on the year, so i guess that's good if you'd rather he sacrifice bunt in the 9 hole instead of letting Pearson hit a triple off the wall.

Taking Beloso or Travinksi out of the lineup so Milazzo can catch would be beyond stupid.

You want to put him at catcher in the last inning up 1, sure i'm fine with that. I do feel more confident about Milazzo keeping the ball in front of him over Travinski, but certainly not at the expense of not having Beloso hit all game.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:50 am to
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Don't be an idiot. It is very common for pitchers to have their preference on who catches for them.



Sure.
In the MAJOR LEAGUES, where the catcher is actually calling the pitches. That's not happening in college.
Posted by geauxtigers33
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 8:57 am to
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In the MAJOR LEAGUES, where the catcher is actually calling the pitches. That's not happening in college


It’s more than calling pitches. Its comfortability. Every pitcher has a guy that catches them they are more comfortable with than the rest of the guys on the team. A lot of teams it’s the same guy for every pitcher.

For most of the dudes on your staff you don’t care who they want catching them but your ace you are willing to make the sacrifice of letting him choose the catcher.
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:02 am to
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Has he logged even 1 inning at C in a game this year ?


I don't think so, but neither has Jones has he? There's not many options if you would need an emergency 3rd catcher.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:03 am to
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Travinskis arm is good. Milazzo s arm is great. Kentucky’s strength is running the bases.

Milazzo’s bat is good, Travinski’s bat is on fire. Travinski should remain the starter, particularly considering how few baserunners Skenes allows.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:07 am to
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This is a real problem to ponder. The passed balls are a huge issue and Kentucky strives on the base paths. Who do you take out though? Pearson has been crushing the ball the past 3 weeks, Jobert has been equally as good, and Beloso is ripping the cover off the ball.


Beloso has been a .400+ hitter over the last month and Travinski is hitting a HR 1 out of every 8 ABs. Obviously defense is always a concern, but you can't take those two out of the lineup now. Plus, if you play them both with Milazzo at C one has to play 1B. That means Morgan is back in LF which makes your infield defense worse.

With Skenes on the mound you have to think he will nullify the risk baserunners pose to some degree by simply striking guys out. Going from 1st to 2nd on a SB doesn't mean much if guys are struggling to put the ball in play.

Outside of Skenes, this team is built to outslug opponents. That's hard to do if you are taking out one of your biggest sluggers.

I can understand the rationale as to why Johnson would consider Milazzo behind the plate...I just don't think he will do it though.
Posted by TigerDM
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:07 am to
The logical thing would be to start Milazzo against a lefty and move Travinski to DH. However Beloso has suddenly hit lefty pitchers very well. His and Travinski's bats have been too good to take out of the lineup.

The other possibility is putting Morgan in left, Beloso at first, Travinski at DH and Milazzo catching. With Jobert and Pearson's hitting, I wouldn't take either one of them out of the lineup either
Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:09 am to
Ride or die with Travinski. The guy is a leader.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278305 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:10 am to
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difference between Milazzo and Travinksi behind the plate isn't that big at all in terms of giving up runs or extra bases.



I’m not a Milazzo guy but wut

Travinski has issues just catching normal pitches. Any extra base given up vs Kentucky is going to be huge. And potentially could cost lsu the super regional.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
8995 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:10 am to
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Sure.
In the MAJOR LEAGUES, where the catcher is actually calling the pitches. That's not happening in college.


This is an inaccurate assessment.

quote:

It’s more than calling pitches. Its comfortability. Every pitcher has a guy that catches them they are more comfortable with than the rest of the guys on the team. A lot of teams it’s the same guy for every pitcher.


This is exactly right.

And again I said I don't think Skenes is going to request or ask for Milazzo to catch this weekend but that if there was a single reason to insert Milazzo at catcher it would be IF Skenes requested to have Milazzo catch.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278305 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:15 am to
Consider this, again

If Milazzo is in the game, you have to have a plan late in the game for a pinch hitter for him if needed.

So if you remove him, what happens at catcher? If travinski is at 1B, you just switch him. But if he is DHing, that presents another set of problems.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:21 am to
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I think the answer is both. Maybe start Travinski and relieve him with Milazzo if you have a lead late. It’s gonna be hot as hell and if Travinski is gets tired it could effect his bat in game 2 or 3.


This is the move for this weekend. Let Milazzo close games if we have a lead and give Travinski a little rest.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27421 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:21 am to
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The guy is a leader.


It went unnoticed by many

But during mondays game, White singles through the right side with 2 runners in scoring position and instead of Tre Morgan (on deck) going to the plate to direct the runner to slide, Travinski did so instead as Morgan was daydreaming.

Travinski looked at Tre like wtf you doing man pay attention

Hayden’s head is in the game.

Just needs to catch the damn ball
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278305 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:24 am to
I love Travinskis engagement when in the field too. Good body language and chemistry with the pitcher. He just can’t catch the ball.

Milazzo has no pulse when he is out there. He has his strong points but never understood the idea that commands the game. I just don’t see it.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 9:30 am to
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Milazzo’s bat is good,


Ehhhhh serviceable at times maybe but far from good.
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