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re: Those quarterbacks at the end of miles tenure.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:07 pm to BeachDude022
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:07 pm to BeachDude022
And then there's this guy Jennings versus old miss.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:16 pm to Tigerpride18
It starts off OK, but my God the play designs were the most basic plays there are in football .spider y banana FTW
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:17 pm to Tigerpride18
So is this a shite on former players thread?
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:25 pm to BeachDude022
quote:He went undefeated and won the SECC.
Jefferson
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:26 pm to Broski
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Just based on the throws hes made in mopup duty show that he will be better then etling and Mauck
L
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Dude, go back and watch Mauck and ending highlights.
Myles Brennan has more talent in his arm then the combined talent of mauck and ettling.
I know we won with Matt but that team was built on defense .etling was solid but he was absolutely scared to death to throw the ball or not scramble. He was tough but he didn't trust the pocket or his arm.
Go back and look at mauck throw and then brennan. It's not even in the same stratosphere.
Myles Brennan was more highly recruited for a reason. Combine his knowledge in preparation, leadership, and preparing for opponents, all of which he learned from a Pro in burrow,with his quick release ,arm strength,and how much of a competitor he is.
Then take the new offense,his familiarity with it,and the weapons around it.
Put all that together, and I really don't see it as a stretch to say that his floor is Mauck . Jmo
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:54 pm to unctiger4
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I think he’s probably a little underrated now to be honest.
He was a HUGE reason we came back to beat Auburn in 2017.
So far, just with the perspective of a few years and how often they are talked about, Etling and Brossette are two huge guys that help turn the program around in Ed's 1st and 2nd years that will not be given enough praise.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 3:06 pm to Broski
Exactly! These guys come in with talent it’s all about the right time and system to benefit their strengths. It’s so naive and a little disrespectful to Joe Burrow to think Brennan is going to come in and do similar things. Face reality, we will never have another burrow or 2019 team. Ever.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 3:16 pm to Broski
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372 yds, 3 Td is failing to come through?
The frick?
Coming through us down three with 1:40 left and the ball around the 25 and going 1-5 passing for 20 yards is not coming through.
I didn’t say he had a bad game, he didn’t. But he didn’t come through in the clutch to pull it out. Murray did Mett didn’t.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 3:57 pm to Tigerpride18
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Have we ever came to some sort of a consensus on who was the worst of the worst, and the best of the worst?
In order of best to worst
Mett
Etling
Jefferson/Lee
Harris
Jennings
Hatch...just because
Jennings
Posted on 6/26/20 at 4:12 pm to MyMossHangs
Jennings to Dural 2013 vs. Arkansas!!
Posted on 6/26/20 at 4:12 pm to unctiger4
Agree. Etling was big help
Posted on 6/26/20 at 4:15 pm to doubleb
quote:No. he threw up great stats, mostly against shite teams with NFL talent around him. He played well in 2012 Bama, but he choked when it mattered. He’s way overrated. People putting him above Mauck and Flynn are retarded.
Did Mett ever lead us from behind late or execute a good two minute drill versus good competition?
Posted on 6/26/20 at 4:19 pm to Tigerpride18
Man you see this list and wonder how we did become perennial top ten teams
Posted on 6/26/20 at 4:28 pm to Tigerpride18
Harris was the worst for me because of how Whiny and pouty he was after getting beat out
Posted on 6/26/20 at 4:50 pm to coolpapaboze
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No. he threw up great stats, mostly against shite teams with NFL talent around him. He played well in 2012 Bama, but he choked when it mattered. He’s way overrated. People putting him above Mauck and Flynn are retarded.
He had tools, he just didn’t have that ability to improvise, make clutch throws or make that huge play that championship type QBs make. The it factor was missing.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 5:08 pm to Tigerpride18
quote:
Burrow
Davey
Mettenberger
Russel
Flynn
Brennan so far
Mauck
Etling
Randell
Harris
Jefferson
Lee
Jennings
Hatch
I’d move Mett down below Etling, switch Flynn and Russell, and leave Brennan out of this since we haven’t seen him yet.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 5:09 pm to Penrod
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I’d move Mett down below Etling,
Lol wat?
Posted on 6/26/20 at 5:14 pm to Penrod
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switch Flynn and Russell
In what way was Flynn better than Russell?
If Russell is on that 2007 team, we still win a title. If Flynn is starting in 06, we lose more than 2 games. Russell's 2006 was the greatest season any LSU QB had ever had until Burrow.
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 6/26/20 at 5:24 pm to Broski
Russell '06: 68% COMP (342 attempts), 3,129 PASS YDS, 28 TD, 8 INT, 167.0 RAT
Flynn '07: 56% COMP (359 attempts), 2,407 PASS YDS, 21 TD, 11 INT, 125.8 RAT
Anyone that says Flynn was better at LSU than Russell doesn't understand football.
Flynn '07: 56% COMP (359 attempts), 2,407 PASS YDS, 21 TD, 11 INT, 125.8 RAT
Anyone that says Flynn was better at LSU than Russell doesn't understand football.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 7:05 pm to Tigerpride18
Ranking our least successful contenders without it looking like arse is partially doomed from the start. The best case scenario you can point to Could've's and May-Have's, but those implicitly throw other tigers under a bus.
Best I can do I is compare the challenges they faced.
Etling would've been a great QB for a 2018/2019 Georgia offense. Danny Etling was a good QB, who would've won 10 games a season during the earlier parts of Miles tenure.
Harris had wheels and a cannon but no targeting system to compliment it. With better continuity of OC staff, his raw talent may've been harnessed into something very special. High ceiling, low floor.
Jennings was a good QB. I don't think he didn't had Harris's athleticism. Miles had a thing for favoring the more mobile QB's over pocket passers (see JJ and JL), which better characterized Jennings. Under a 2019 system he would've done just fine.
Mett was very good. He had an NFL receiving corps and that offense was slightly less shackled than surrounding years. If they would've had the 2019 staff and scheme, Miles would've had a dynasty.
The Jefferson + Lee era was more middle of Miles LSU run. While I enjoyed watching them bulldozing teams on the ground from the I-Formation, it was truly frustrating to watching the offense just shutdown against elite defenses. But that is self pity, how do you think Jarrett and Jordan felt? Both of those QB's showed incredible resolve and resilience. Sure, it was part of their job, but they had an unnecessarily harder version of that job than what they probably envisioned.
Had either of those QB's played an inch under what they did, the drought between SEC titles would've been longer than a decade. The defenses on those teams, in a era with noticeably different schematic norms and relevant rules, were able to close the gap the passing game lacked.
It is intriguing to think how a Ryan Perrilloux-led 2008 season would've changed things. It's before the period we're talking, but forcing JJ & JL & Andrew Hatch onto the field early did affect how they developed.
Best I can do I is compare the challenges they faced.
Etling would've been a great QB for a 2018/2019 Georgia offense. Danny Etling was a good QB, who would've won 10 games a season during the earlier parts of Miles tenure.
Harris had wheels and a cannon but no targeting system to compliment it. With better continuity of OC staff, his raw talent may've been harnessed into something very special. High ceiling, low floor.
Jennings was a good QB. I don't think he didn't had Harris's athleticism. Miles had a thing for favoring the more mobile QB's over pocket passers (see JJ and JL), which better characterized Jennings. Under a 2019 system he would've done just fine.
Mett was very good. He had an NFL receiving corps and that offense was slightly less shackled than surrounding years. If they would've had the 2019 staff and scheme, Miles would've had a dynasty.
The Jefferson + Lee era was more middle of Miles LSU run. While I enjoyed watching them bulldozing teams on the ground from the I-Formation, it was truly frustrating to watching the offense just shutdown against elite defenses. But that is self pity, how do you think Jarrett and Jordan felt? Both of those QB's showed incredible resolve and resilience. Sure, it was part of their job, but they had an unnecessarily harder version of that job than what they probably envisioned.
Had either of those QB's played an inch under what they did, the drought between SEC titles would've been longer than a decade. The defenses on those teams, in a era with noticeably different schematic norms and relevant rules, were able to close the gap the passing game lacked.
It is intriguing to think how a Ryan Perrilloux-led 2008 season would've changed things. It's before the period we're talking, but forcing JJ & JL & Andrew Hatch onto the field early did affect how they developed.
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