re: There was nothing wrong with Tommy swinging 3-0

They ain’t throwing a fast ball down the pipe in a 3-0 count to Tommy white ! And he should have taken the pitch no matter what ! He’s in a little slump they will try to make him earn it there it was a perfect pitch that the hitter was not going to do anything with no matter who they were! Just what they wanted low risk !

You have to let Tommy be Tommy. His aggressive approach is part of what makes him great. He will occasionally have wasted at bats, like everyone.

I’m good with Tommy having the green light, execution was just poor.

White always has a green light because the coaches trust his judgment. He was pressing and probably knew he should have taken.

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I’m good with Tommy having the green light, execution was just poor.

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This is the correct answer.

A hitter like Tanks earns the green light, and it’s on him to swing on 3-0 if he gets “the” pitch.

The thing is he had to hit it hard.

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This speculative decision is purely on the coaching. They either give him the green light and deal with the risk/reward result or they take matters into their own hands and have him take 3-0. A hitter is going to react to the best of his ability at the given moment. It’s horrific times and heroic at times but if it’s to be controlled it’s on the coaches. Not placing blame on either or taking an opinion on what I think should have happened—its just one or the other.

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Agreed.

Tommy objectively should have taken that pitch, no one would argue otherwise, but I’m 100% okay with him having the green light in general and even in that situation.

He should always have greenligjt. He has to know his zone per the count. That ball was a hanger but too far up and in to swing 3 and O

I disagree and think there was a lot wrong with it. There are times to say "you're our guy, so let it rip", and then there are times where you say "our guy with 26 homers is on deck and had better at bats than you today, so why don't you just take a pitch and see if you can get on for him".

And it wasn't really a good pitch to hit, frankly. It was well up. Not an impossible pitch to hit if you're sitting on a pitch in that location, but he was obviously not ready for it.

When Jones came up and hit the home run right after, it was immediate confirmation as to why that was the wrong decision to swing, in my opinion. I was both excited and frustrated at the same time. Thankfully, it became a moot point.

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You think it's that easy to recognize?

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This is the point they miss. They think players just choose to swing at balls.

I agree with you. I wanted Tommy greenlighted there so that our best two sluggers had a chance to tie the game.

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If he connected on that 3-0 pitch, you'd be talking about how awesome it was that he had the green light there. You're letting hindsight cloud your judgment.

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bullshite. Obviously everyone would have been ecstatic if he homered, but pre-pitch it was an obvious take call. I was shocked when he swung and so were most people. You play the situation, and the situation to most was an easy take. Get a baserunner on with no outs down two and Jones up next in a game where you have beem hard pressed to get base runners.