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re: There is no shame in saying that Max is the starter. Myles got passed, it happens.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 12:42 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Posted on 4/18/21 at 12:42 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Your point is all over the place. In fact, it changes everytime somebody makes you look like a damn fool.
You took 1 point out of the whole thing. Here was the entire post you moron.
“No. They saw a true freshman take the reigns and win on the road at Florida when the stick that is Brennan go 1-2 and picked up those yards against shitty teams.
How the hell do you anoint Brennan? Where the hell is his body of work against ANY talented team? All that bull shite about passing yds, TDs, blah blah blah from MSU, MO is garbage. He has NONE.”
“ They actually like the guy that beat a decent defense on the road as a TRUE freshman. He did not fold like a cheap suit. Say what you want about stats, it matters WHO YOU PLAY AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO LOSE WHEN YOU PLAY THEM as much as it does everything else. Winners are winners.
We have ZERO data on Brennan because he played in about as many games as Max did as a starter but against MUCH worse teams than that had nothing to lose as opposed to UF. With that 1 game doesn’t make a trend either. For this offense to be successful, the QB has to be able to slide and run above average. Brennan has limited pocket awareness and is slow afoot.”
This was in response to the stupid comment on how the defense bailed out Max and Brennan didn’t shite the bed against a CRUMMY MO defense or how he had that awesome 45 QBR against a putrid MSU going 5 punts in 6 tries in the first half with better receivers INCLUDING GILBERT a-hole.
“ It doesn’t matter what the defense did. We are not judging the defense. We are judging decision making against MO and the whole first half of the MSU game where he did nothing. LSU punted on 5 of the 6 possessions in the first half of that game. WTH were you watching? The defense scored the other TD. So not the offense didn’t score 34. They scored 27 against a SHITTY MSU defense.
Brennan had a 45 QBR for that game.
Brennan has little experience despite his years there. You might as well build for the future and go with Johnson against these lesser teams early to prepare him for the grind. It’s stupid to waste his time.”
“ I'll give you arm strength but that's about it. With all other things considered, they are what and what. But here's the thing, that's keeping in mind that this is Brennan's senior year and Johnson's sophomore year. I would hope that Brennan retained a little something over the years and learned under Burrow to get where he is today. And still, here we are debating over who should start. Which is what makes Brennan look to be that bad and Johnson look to be that good all at the same time.”
Posted on 4/18/21 at 12:45 pm to toosleaux
The fact that Brennan has been here for five years and hasn’t decisively taking over the QB position is concerning.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:32 pm to timlan2057
Sometimes numbers don’t matter. The only stat that matters is the win column. If Max goes out there and throws for 200 per game winning and Myles goes out there throwing for 400 per game losing, I am going with the game manager who gets W’s.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:35 pm to GumboPot
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The fact that Brennan has been here for five years and hasn’t decisively taking over the QB position is concerning.
The guy had the greatest start in LSU history before getting hurt last year
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:05 pm to tiger25
quote:no pocket awareness at all
he guy had the greatest start in LSU history before getting hurt last year
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:14 pm to justice
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no pocket awareness at all
Greatest. Start. Ever. Better then Burrow in 2019. If we had a defense better then the worst in school history he would have an undefeated record. Max is a good quarterback but nothing yesterday showed that he is head and shoulders above myles like everyone thinks. He went 4-10 and was sacked 3 times against the first string defense.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:16 pm to cj2002
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Because Myles runs like he is standing in cement.
Bs. He ran for a first down up the middle. It was called back because of the Spring "touch rule". In a regular game it would have been on his stats.
He may not be as fast a Burrow but he isn't as slow as Finley.
I also noticed him using a "Burrow" move in the pocket.
When the DE comes around the tackle, Brennan moved up as if he was running. When the DE reversed, Brennan backed up, giving him more time to find a receiver. I didn't notice him doing that last season.
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:18 pm to Stellytiger
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How many of those rushing yards were MJ? I bet close to 50
Well, he wasnt moving the chains then, because this
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Max was 2/4 for a whopping total of 3 yards over the last 2 drives
resulted in LSU escaping due to a bizarre once in a lifetime penalty, and a 57 yard FG
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:22 pm to tiger25
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The guy had the greatest start in LSU history before getting hurt last year
1-2 against opponents with a combined record of 8-21.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 3:13 pm to shinerfan
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1-2 against opponents with a combined record of 8-21.
So are you saying it's because of the offense we lost those games? Give me a break dude. Defense was the worst in school history. That's why we lost.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 3:46 pm to tiger25
They love to ignore the fact that the defense lost those games or that Florida was 74th in defense or that our defense was responsible for 2 TDs in the Florida game never mind the shoe throwing incident which cost them the game. They also ignore that Ole Miss was 118th in defense and use a double standard to discredit Brennan. Brennan put up better numbers and more points vs better defenses despite no support from the D or the run game. Once the cancerous elements had gone and we had hungry guys out there the QBs support system was much better but in no way did any QB outplay Brennan and the individual numbers show it. Typical Rantards going with the new guy or the backup has a long and failed history here. Thank god they don’t make decisions.
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 4/18/21 at 4:03 pm to shinerfan
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1-2 against opponents with a combined record of 8-21
uh, thats why Pelini is no longer here. Pelini coached defense. FYI
Posted on 4/18/21 at 4:09 pm to Vacherie Saint
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No, that’s Mac Jones
Apparently Mac Jones > Tua, Burrow, Trevor Lawrence
Posted on 4/18/21 at 4:12 pm to GumboPot
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The fact that Brennan has been here for five years and hasn’t decisively taking over the QB position is concerning.
He sure looked like the leader on the sidelines.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 4:24 pm to Tiger1988
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picked up those yards against shitty teams.
Where the hell is his body of work against ANY talented team? All that bullshite about passing yds, TDs, blah blah blah from MSU, MO is garbage. He has NONE
UF and OM's defenses were significantly worse than Miss St and Missouri's
Posted on 4/18/21 at 4:33 pm to Tiger1988
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45 QBR and 5-6 punts in ONE HALF against aMine Leach team....
And I guess we’ll ignore the next 10 quarters of football be played?
His QBr against Vandy and Missouri where higher than Johnson’s vs Florida and Ole
Miss and the defense where comparable.
“Mike Leach Team” had a better defense than Florida and Ole Miss.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 4:41 pm to GumboPot
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The fact that Brennan has been here for five years and hasn’t decisively taking over the QB position is concerning.
Was anyone calling for him to be benched before his injury?
Anyone?
No. He was the starting QB hands and away. The only reason we’re talking about Max is because he started the last 2 games lastbyear and looked decent. But if the defense gives
Up 45 to Florida and we go 1-1 in those games does that make Max and better or worse?
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 4/18/21 at 5:20 pm to SammyTiger
Take the team names away and the false narrative of blaming Brennan for the defense and look at the actual data.
Brennan- 370.7ypg, 3.7TDs per game and 2total ints in 3 games.
Opponents faced ranked an average of 85th in ppg allowed and 81st in ypg allowed at 32.5ppg and 428ypg allowed
Max Johnson- 337ypg, 3TDs, 1 total Int in 2 starts.
Opponents faced ranked an average of 96 in ppg allowed and 104 in yards allowed at 34.5ppg and 473.5ypg allowed
So Brennan put up better numbers vs better defenses and played over a half with a season ending injury. He also led the offense to put up more yards than the defenses he faced averaged giving up, something Johnson didn’t do. The facts are the facts and Rantards can kick and scream all they want about made up things like “it factor” but that doesn’t change the cold hard truth.
Brennan- 370.7ypg, 3.7TDs per game and 2total ints in 3 games.
Opponents faced ranked an average of 85th in ppg allowed and 81st in ypg allowed at 32.5ppg and 428ypg allowed
Max Johnson- 337ypg, 3TDs, 1 total Int in 2 starts.
Opponents faced ranked an average of 96 in ppg allowed and 104 in yards allowed at 34.5ppg and 473.5ypg allowed
So Brennan put up better numbers vs better defenses and played over a half with a season ending injury. He also led the offense to put up more yards than the defenses he faced averaged giving up, something Johnson didn’t do. The facts are the facts and Rantards can kick and scream all they want about made up things like “it factor” but that doesn’t change the cold hard truth.
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 4/18/21 at 5:45 pm to toosleaux
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There is no shame in saying that Max is the starter. Myles got passed, it happens
Anybody making a conclusion from that game yesterday is only seeing half the picture.
When they get on the field and the defense is hitting the QB you will see different results and I dont even profess to say which way that will go
Posted on 4/18/21 at 6:40 pm to chinhoyang
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Max certainly has the qualities that many LSU fans look for. TJ doesn't have those qualities
There you go with your typical race bullshite. You are the biggest racist this board has ever seen, but it gets ignored because you are racist against white people.
Go frick yourself loser.
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