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re: There is no shame in saying that Max is the starter. Myles got passed, it happens.

Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:17 pm to
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:17 pm to
Amen!! 2-0 in nail biter games against big time rivals. One being on the road against a top 5 gators team. That shite matters. Oh yeah and it was his first start as a true freshman.

How can people sit there and seriously argue that Max is not the future? You can’t mess with that momentum by sitting him a year because it’s supposedly Brennan’s turn. Myles had his chances and couldn’t seize the moment.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24333 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:24 pm to
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Dude held a couple of school records before Burrow came and crushed them all, you idiot.

Did he win the game that would have put LSU in the SEC Championship? No. Ole Miss is where you need to start and end. He had Beckham, Landry and Hill - ALL long term pros. He turned out to be what he was. Brennan is not your starter.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21061 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:29 pm to
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How the hell do you anoint Brennan?


Learn how to read dumb arse. This is exactly what I said. But in your pea sized brain, I "anointed Brennan."


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This isn't just for the Max Johnson crew either. It goes for anyone saying Myles should start, or TJ should transfer. It's ridiculous all the way around.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21061 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:32 pm to
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It doesn’t matter what the defense did. We are not judging the defense


But what the defense did was a HUGE reason Brennan was 1-2. So, yes it's stupid to ignore what the defense did, if you are using the overall record to judge who should start. But I wouldn't expect you to be able to comprehend this.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:43 pm to
Max held the ball way to long numerous times. Only thing that bothered me.
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:45 pm to
It's the spring game, it's next to meaningless.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 10:58 pm to
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No. They saw a true freshman take the reigns and win on the road at Florida

This is why Myles will be the starter.

MaxFans act like he was a world beater against Florida. LSU rushed for 179 yards in the Fla game. The game was never in Maxs hands. The rushing game kept us in that one. In fact, on the final drive we had to rely on a stupid penalty and a 57 yard FG, because Max was 2/4 for a whopping total of 3 yards over the last 2 drives.

The very next week Bama scored 52 on UF (187 rushing), then OKLA scored 55 on them (435 rushing). UF wasnt a very good team last year
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66503 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:20 pm to
1. You’re talking wins and loses. Last I check There are 21 other starters including 11 on defense that effect the outcome of a game. So don’t talk wins and loses without talking about the defense.

2. The defense scored a TD against Florida too, and gave us the ball in FG position before the end of half. He knelt 2 times and kicked a FG.

3. Miss State had a much better scoring defense, a significantly better rushing defense, and a comparable passing defense. In fact, so did Missouri. Florida’s defense sucked.

4. Go look how many times we punted against Florida. 8 times. That’s 8 out of 14 drives. And then we kicked 3 FGs.

The difference between the offense against Florida and Missouri is that we scored less TDS against Florida and punted less. But Max can’t push the ball downfield like Brennan so he faced a lot more 3rd downs to convert before he punted.

The whole point is Max’s is a good QB but his magic “it” factor has a lot to do with the team playing better and Ole Miss being the worst fricking defense in the country.
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 11:26 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66503 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:37 pm to
So because Mett and the Cam Cameron offense couldn’t win Brennan can’t win.

Because a Pocket QB can’t win?

Because Mac Jones is a track star?
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 11:38 pm
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 11:50 pm to
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Because a Pocket QB can’t win?


Just how much improvement are you expecting from the OL? I'd love to see all five of them play themselves into the first round but I'm not expecting it. That's what it would take to win the SEC with Myles.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21061 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 12:17 am to
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I'd love to see all five of them play themselves into the first round but I'm not expecting it. That's what it would take to win the SEC with Myles.


You have to be kidding with this right? There is no way you are serious. I hate break it to you, but:

1 - there is a 0% chance the entire O line is drafted in the first round. It's completely insane to think that this would even be what's necessary for any QB to be able to have success.

2 - if the OL is bad, then Max Johnson wouldn't have a whole lot of success either. I don't know why some of you think that this kid is a track star, or why him being able to run slightly better than Brennan means he needs to start.

If you can't be smarter than this, just stop posting
Posted by shinerfan
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Member since Sep 2009
22301 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:04 am to
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1 - there is a 0% chance the entire O line is drafted in the first round. It's completely insane to think that this would even be what's necessary for any QB to be able to have success.




That was hyperbole. Sorry you're too dense to catch it. But Brennan's lack of awareness in the pocket wou!d require a hell of a lot more improvement in the line than anyone can reasonably expect.

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I don't know why some of you think that this kid is a track star,


He's not.


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him being able to run slightly better than Brennan



He's more than slightly better but I'm not talking about running. Brennan is actually not that bad at running. But he's terrible at buying time in the pocket.

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If you can't be smarter than this, just stop posting




Back at you, Timmy. Get you some of that fancy reading comprehension and it will improve your life.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24333 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 9:04 am to

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But what the defense did was a HUGE reason Brennan was 1-2.

I’m not talking about record. I’m talking about a 45 QBR and 5 punts in 6 possessions with 2 picks against MSU. I’m talking about scoring 27 points against MSU by the offense. Like I said the defense scored a TD that game.
The MO game? 74 QBR and that horrible decision making when it counted. Look, I’m not saying Brennan wouldn’t possibly give LSU a chance to win more games. The book is still VERY much out on him because there is zero film to speak of. Yes, he should have better chemistry with the receivers that have been there a while, but what he lacks is pocket awareness and the ability to escape from all of the film we do have. Those are critical characteristics that this offense depends on. You can’t be one deme ski all no matter how strong an arm he has.
Joe Montana didn’t have a great arm. He had intangibles like escapability, decision making and calmness under immense pressure. Two of those I saw a TRUE freshman display on the road against a Top 15 team playing for a chance to go to the conference championship.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24333 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 9:07 am to
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1. You’re talking wins and loses. Last I check There are 21 other starters including 11 on defense that effect the outcome of a game. So don’t talk wins and loses without talking about the defense.

45 QBR and 5-6 punts in ONE HALF against aMine Leach team....
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24333 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 9:11 am to
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Because Mac Jones is a track star?

Beans and Geneva... Mac had pocket awareness. Brennan has little to zero. Mac had a GREAT OLine much like Mett. Brennan won’t. Mac had 3 of the Top receivers in the country AND arguably the best RB. Brennan won’t.
Finally, Mac’s coaches changed their offense to match Mac’s skill set. LSU is installing an offense to match the skill set of Max and not Brennan.
This is about the worse comparison you can make.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64658 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 9:13 am to
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max is more dynamic than Tom Brady too.


Some one has crowned the King.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 9:18 am to
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Max was 4-10 with the starters and would have gotten smoked in a live game on his first TD.


Brennan TD was a prayer. Horrible decision. DB played it perfect and had to work hard not to defend the pass. It was an int 8 out of 10 times against top teams
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 9:19 am
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64658 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 9:20 am to
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I saw a TRUE freshman display on the road against a Top 15 team playing for a chance to go to the conference championship.


Me too and I also saw the Florida defense help us out. Thanks be to Cade for saving the day. I saw LSU's defense have one of it's better games.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64658 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 9:21 am to
Brennan set the defense up with the fake and you give him no credit. I like Max, a lot, but no need to piss on the others to make a point.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21061 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 9:23 am to
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I’m not talking about record


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 They saw a true freshman take the reigns and win on the road at Florida when the stick that is Brennan go 1-2 and picked up those yards against shitty teams


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