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re: The Slide Rule - Double Standard
Posted on 9/28/26 at 12:04 pm to iamandykeim
Posted on 9/28/26 at 12:04 pm to iamandykeim
Well at least this happened in a game that ended up being a blowout where that first down really didn't matter. Hopefully they work on it so he or clark doesn't slide too early again.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 12:07 pm to bayouboo
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No. If the QB slides feet first, the rules apply for D contact and the ball is down where the butt hits. If the QB dives head first, they should be fair game.
So what happens when a QB starts his slide so the defender pulls up, then the QB decides he doesn’t want to slide anymore?
Posted on 9/28/26 at 12:13 pm to LSBoosie
Exactly. OP is only bitching bc leavitt either didn’t understand the rule or wasn’t sure of where he was on the field.
If this happens to Marcel reed or the A&M back up, OP is likely saying oh well that’s the rule it is what it is.
If this happens to Marcel reed or the A&M back up, OP is likely saying oh well that’s the rule it is what it is.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 12:23 pm to Bieber_Hole69
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When the QB is clearly giving up
the play is dead at the point where the QB is “clearly giving up”, not where he ultimately wanted to go.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 12:31 pm to Putty
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player who receives a kickoff and is "trying to kneel" in the endzone but kneels on the 1 yard line. Let's just give them a touchback because that's what they were trying to do?
That is not a rule intended for player safety. If Xavier Carter is just sloppy with defenders 20 yards downfield that’s a much different situation than a QB trying to make a play but also protect himself downfield with defenders closing in.
Protecting the QB is a goal that most people can get on board with. Sam made the play to get the 1st but also was trying to be safe and protect himself, something we’ve all said he needs to do.
Dante Moore tried to squeeze an extra yard out of a slide and got annihilated for his troubles.
For everyone saying he had “several more yards” before worrying about contact clearly hasn’t played beyond Madden. Those defenders close in the blink of an eye, especially when the QB is moving upfield toward them, and protecting the slide should absolutely be the main purpose of the rule, not trying to pinpoint the exact point where their hips drop.
Contact with butt on the ground should absolutely be the spot, and defenders that aren’t hit men like at USC know when they are giving themselves up.
This post was edited on 9/28/26 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 9/28/26 at 12:37 pm to CoatesHall
Pretty easy—slide rule only applies when the QB is behind the LOS. Once he crosses the LOS , he becomes a ball carrier.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 1:23 pm to Adam Banks
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Personally I think it should be a non reviewable play.
That would actually be a good option. Pulling out the measuring stick in slow motion is retarded in that scenario.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 1:26 pm to Bieber_Hole69
It was an awful slide. It's 100% on Leavitt.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 1:26 pm to LSBoosie
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So what happens when a QB starts his slide so the defender pulls up, then the QB decides he doesn’t want to slide anymore?
That is playing OUTSIDE OF THE PHILOSOPHY OF THE RULE.
As stated several time, in that case, pull out the measuring stick. When the QB is clearing giving up, it is a DIFFERENT CASE and should be handled accordingly.
It is amazing how hard it is to get folks to think beyond a tik tok scroll.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 1:27 pm to SmoothBox
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Exactly. OP is only bitching bc leavitt either didn’t understand the rule or wasn’t sure of where he was on the field.
WRONG. You just can't read.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 1:31 pm to Bieber_Hole69
If a QB or any player sliding is giving themself up you HAVE to end it early so they don’t get maimed on the slide. See the hit on Trevor Lawrence a few years ago where he was concussed for weeks while giving himself up.
You can’t reward them with more progress forward or guys will be inclined to hit them.
During a full speed game if you’re going to allow a slide and no contact you can’t also reward the slider.
You can’t reward them with more progress forward or guys will be inclined to hit them.
During a full speed game if you’re going to allow a slide and no contact you can’t also reward the slider.
This post was edited on 9/28/26 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 9/28/26 at 1:34 pm to Bieber_Hole69
It’s a well thought out rule. The ball is marked down wherever the qb gives himself up at.
100% poor awareness on the ball carrier to not know where he was when I gave himself up. No one cares what his intent was
100% poor awareness on the ball carrier to not know where he was when I gave himself up. No one cares what his intent was
Posted on 9/28/26 at 1:47 pm to Bieber_Hole69
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If tweet fails to load, click here. This is from Luke McCown about a Saints game but he explains why he thinks sliding feet first is riskier. Basically feet first head up, your head is a target and will get hit backward into the ground. Head first you can see better where attack is coming from and adjust to avoid. Sounds good but I don’t know if there is any data to back it up.
This post was edited on 9/28/26 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 9/28/26 at 1:52 pm to Joshjrn
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You simply can't allow players to gain yards while also being illegal to hit. That's not a double standard; that's basic logic.
This.
If you are going to allow players to gain an extra 3-5 yards while sliding but prohibit the defender from hitting him the moment he starts his feet first slide, then you are going to incentivize the defender to hit the QB to stop him from gaining additional yards...leading to more plays like the one on the Oregon QB.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 1:55 pm to LSUgrad88
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If you slide head first, you are going to get hit in the back, and that’s a lot better than the face and chest. Not to mention if you slide head first you will get several more yards on the play.
Almost all QB slides go off with no or very little contact. You are worried about the outlier situation. The chance of a non-contact injury diving headfirst I bet, has a much higher possibility of occurring than possibly being injured from being hit going feet first.
Quarterbacks know the rules. You are down when you start to give yoruself up and they are all told dont slide late.
This post was edited on 9/28/26 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 9/28/26 at 1:57 pm to LSBoosie
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So what happens when a QB starts his slide so the defender pulls up, then the QB decides he doesn’t want to slide anymore?
He scores a TD in the ACC championship game like Kenny Pickett did. Of course, the NCAA changed the rule after that disallowing the QB from faking a slide
Posted on 9/28/26 at 2:00 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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That is not a rule intended for player safety.
Fair catches and kneeling on kick-offs and punts absolutely are player-safety rules. Obviously they are related to mechanics and field position but they are allowed to limit high-speed collisions.
The NCAA was founded to increase player safety on kick-offs related to deaths from teams running the flying wedge and they have been changing rules to try to make kick-offs safer ever since.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 2:13 pm to Madking
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These idiotic, protective rules are why the Oregon QB got hurt. Stop copying the NFL which is a fake league, it’s WWE, and play real football.
No, the Oregon QB got hurt because a SC player lowered his head well after the QB had started the slide. The SC player had plenty of time to not attack, but he did.
As others have said, the rule is written specifically to eliminate this hit, but the SC player made the hit anyway and was punished appropriately for it.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 2:27 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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For everyone saying he had “several more yards” before worrying about contact clearly hasn’t played beyond Madden.
Easily could've gotten 2 yards. The look on CLK's face told you everything. It stalled the drive.
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