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re: The problem is Peetz, not Max
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:29 am to BayouCowboy
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:29 am to BayouCowboy
Doesn’t matter, Orgeron has used up all his assistant firings
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Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:30 am to BayouCowboy
Maybe it’s because he is lefty but I feel like his throwing motion isn’t natural. It’s looks like an extra long release to get the ball out so there are no quick passes.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:31 am to BayouCowboy
How come Nuss rolls out, and throws downfield?
Is he handled by a different OC?
Is he handled by a different OC?
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:32 am to BayouCowboy
No, the problem is O.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:33 am to BayouCowboy
We called one run that I can recall where the RB was allowed a head a steam before getting the ball. On that play the RB (Goodwin) gained 20 yds.
Having TDP start every run at a dead stop is a travesty IMO. His game is based on momentum and power and he has none of it generated when he is handed the ball at a standstill. That philosophy make work fine with CEH or Kiner but TDP needs that running start to be effective IMO.
Having TDP start every run at a dead stop is a travesty IMO. His game is based on momentum and power and he has none of it generated when he is handed the ball at a standstill. That philosophy make work fine with CEH or Kiner but TDP needs that running start to be effective IMO.
This post was edited on 9/13/21 at 11:35 am
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:33 am to BayouCowboy
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but last season he made plays while getting hit, felt pressure and navigated the pocket well and showed more poise.
None of those things have to do with a new OC / playcaller.
Max has regressed. I don't know why.
It's one thing to say he's not being given the proper plays / put in the proper places. I get that. But where Max is struggling is basic QB skills.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:34 am to BayouCowboy
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Plays are coming in too slow, adjustments aren't being made and there is no flow to the play calling
Lot's of blame to go around but this...for sure.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:36 am to Mobiletiger
at least be more involved on gameday in the booth
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:37 am to ForLSU56
The Joe Brady offense worked because we had a 5th year graduate QB with exceptional talent. O is trying to capture lightening in a bottle again. He is not playing to the strengths of the talent he has...
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:49 am to BayouCowboy
I don't know enough about what's going on behind the scenes with this offense but I know that Peetz didn't make Max miss that sure touchdown to Palmer or throw the bad interception in the third quarter of the UCLA game or throw the no look backwards pass
This post was edited on 9/13/21 at 11:54 am
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:51 am to BayouCowboy
I dont think Peetz's play calling has been perfect
but you have to acknowledge:
a)The OL has blocked poorly. You cannot do much as a play caller with that
b)the WR's have dropped many passes that either would have been TDs, or dropped balls on 3rd down that would have continued drives. Understand how many points are left on the board because of this. And how different Max Johnson's passing numbers would look.
but you have to acknowledge:
a)The OL has blocked poorly. You cannot do much as a play caller with that
b)the WR's have dropped many passes that either would have been TDs, or dropped balls on 3rd down that would have continued drives. Understand how many points are left on the board because of this. And how different Max Johnson's passing numbers would look.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:58 am to Chicken
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I don't know enough about what's going on behind the scenes with this offense but I know that Peetz didn't make Max miss that sure touchdown to Palmer or throw the bad interception in the third quarter of the UCLA game or throw the no look backwards pass
Many on this board believe - doesn't matter the sport - that our athletes are perfect and any issues/mistakes are 100 percent the fault of coaching.
Sometimes players make poor plays.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 12:06 pm to BayouCowboy
Max looks exactly the same as he did last year. Everything underneath, not taking chances on deep passes. Almost all of his completions are outside or at the hashes between 0-10 yards.
His passing chart looks like a big U. Nothing in the middle of the field past 10 yards.
His passing chart looks like a big U. Nothing in the middle of the field past 10 yards.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 12:07 pm to Chicken
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I don't know enough about what's going on behind the scenes with this offense but I know that Peetz didn't make Max missed that sure touchdown to Palmer or throw the bad interception in the third quarter of the UCLA game or throw the no look backwards pass
I guess the question is what's going on at practice and in game prep. I wasn't advocating for Max over Myles in the offseason because Max still had accuracy issues and physical limitations that were obvious last season. What he did show last season was more comfort with the system. Now he looks like a guy whose confidence is shaken.
Even Clemson's #1 rated QB looks like shite so far this season. D.J. Uiagalele is completing 54% with 1 TD and 2 INTs. Against South Carolina St (who who get crushed by McNeese) he completed 58% for 171 1TD and 1 INT. That's with a stable staff and a much better OL and run game.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 12:08 pm to BayouCowboy
The problem is all 3
Posted on 9/13/21 at 12:10 pm to BayouCowboy
Relax, Francis.
Neither Bill Walsh or Sean Payton could generate more than 2.9 yards per rush with this O-line either.
That said, 33% of the season's rushes should NOT be the QB, of which some of this is O-line driven as well but UCLA rushing game plan was wanting.
Neither Bill Walsh or Sean Payton could generate more than 2.9 yards per rush with this O-line either.
That said, 33% of the season's rushes should NOT be the QB, of which some of this is O-line driven as well but UCLA rushing game plan was wanting.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 2:36 pm to BayouCowboy
There is a lot of intelligence around the State of Louisiana when it comes to football....Steve Ensminger was on our staff at West Monroe and was a great coach....However, he did not call the plays. Please give credit where due...Burrow was the reason LSU won...plain and simple. Coach Ensminger will say that without a blink. Rest assured, if Joe B. had not shown up....we wound not know Brady!!
Posted on 9/13/21 at 2:38 pm to BayouCowboy
The O line is a big part of the broken puzzle at LSU!!
Geaux Tigers
Geaux Tigers
Posted on 9/13/21 at 3:14 pm to LSUFanHouston
Millions of dollars for incompetents to "learn on the job" at LSU.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 3:20 pm to PUB
All the film studies show wr running wide open and not getting thrown the ball. That is a max problem.
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