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re: The most disturbing thing about the reversed Boutte TD catch
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:17 pm to marcnbc
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:17 pm to marcnbc
quote:
Was not a catch and here’s the rule. When the ball moved slightly from Boutte’s hand to his body while out of bounds...it became an incomplete pass at that point. He does all that and falls down in the EZ...it’s a touchdown.
That does prove he is wrong about the rule, but it isn’t the reason it was overturned. He didn’t get a foot in with control of the ball so whatever happened when he went to the ground is irrelevant.
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Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:18 pm to tigersbb
-catch
-foot down
-bobble
-never re established possession in the field of play
That call was easy. Not sure why it’s been so polarizing
-foot down
-bobble
-never re established possession in the field of play
That call was easy. Not sure why it’s been so polarizing
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:18 pm to TigerFanNKaty
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bullshite it was a catch. Ball should have been spotted at 1/2 yard line
There is no scenario in which the ball could have been spotted at the 1/2 yard line. It was either an incomplete pass or a touchdown.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:20 pm to tigersbb
The ball came out of his hand as he was falling to the ground
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:23 pm to tigersbb
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Its common football knowledge, Possession of the football in the end zone is a TD. Play is over both from the stand point of crossing the goal and also having then stepped out of bounds,
This is wrong on so many levels. You have to complete the process of the catch even if you make it in the end zone with one foot in bounds.
It’s been that way for over 15 years. It’s why if applied correctly, LSU loses the ASU game in 2005 since Early dropped the pass in the end zone. It was a blown call then.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:22 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:Re last night's play, yeah, it sucked. But on the replay you could see the bobble.
You have to complete the process of the catch even if you make it in the end zone with one foot in bounds.
It’s been that way for over 15 years. It’s why if applied correctly, LSU loses the ASU game in 2005 since Early dropped the pass in the end zone. It was a blown call then.
Good call, bad luck. I think he could have just frozen his arms and completed it, but when he brought the ball to his body, it wobbled around. He's a freshman, right? I think he will get better with things as he progresses.
Same freshman mistake for Moore or whoever, jumping to make a catch he didn't need to, and not getting the 1st. Going forward, those things will work themselves out.
Re the Arizona State play in 2005, sadly I agree. If there was any other uniform on that player, we'd all admit that was a drop and a bad call. If it happened to us and was the reason we lost, we'd be screaming about it.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:29 pm to tigersbb
The commentators were discussing whether it was a touchdown, not if it was a catch.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:32 pm to tigersbb
A run play is different than a pass play. I bet you think the ground can't cause an incomplete also. 
You can not bobble the ball and land out of bounds before securing possession regardless if you have crossed the plane of the goaline on a catch near the goaline.
You can not bobble the ball and land out of bounds before securing possession regardless if you have crossed the plane of the goaline on a catch near the goaline.This post was edited on 11/29/20 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:34 pm to tigersbb
quote:
The most disturbing thing about the reversed Boutte TD catch
That call was correct. But the failure to reverse the ensuing INT struck me as horseshite. The nose of the ball hit the turf based on the two very quick replays they showed, and they never even bothered to air a slow-mo replay focusing on the ball.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:37 pm to tigersbb
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You are as informative as the official.
It's not a rules clinic. Jesus, who gives a shite if the guy doesn't waste time elaborating on the f'ing rule?
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:43 pm to tigersbb
By the time he had possession his foot was out of bounds. No catch. Good call. Bad luck.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:48 pm to tigersbb
quote:Except you're incorrect
Its common football knowledge, Possession of the football in the end zone is a TD. Play is over both from the stand point of crossing the goal and also having then stepped out of bounds
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 7:19 am
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:18 pm to tigersbb
He didn’t have clean possession while in bounds. That’s usually why they say incomplete.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:56 pm to tigersbb
You can clearly see he lost the ball and had no hands on it between the initial catch and when he fell out of bounds. He caught it on the ground again, but it wasn’t him tucking it or anything the some have claimed.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:57 pm to Chalkywhite84
If this happened it would’ve been a catch on the 1 yard line. I said after the first replay either it is a catch on the 1 or incomplete.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 11:00 pm to tigersbb
he bobbled it 
Posted on 11/29/20 at 11:26 pm to tigersbb
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This post was edited on 11/29/20 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 11/29/20 at 11:36 pm to GumbOrgeron
quote:
I never saw the bobble. I saw him moving the ball from his right arm to his body. No way there was 100% indisputable evidence to overturn that.
While I think the incompletion was the correct call, your statement is the best argument that the catch should have stood ... “bobble” was debatable as one could argue there was no “bobble” and that he had full control throughout in moving from catch to body
This post was edited on 11/29/20 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 11/29/20 at 11:39 pm to MONROE
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No it wasn’t! Take off the purple and gold glasses
I tend to agree that there was the appearance that he bobled it ever so slightly as he tries to secure it immediately after catching it. The real question is was the appearance of the bobble enough to overturn the call on tne field without a clear indication of a bobble. Previous reviews and the general guidelines of ‘clear and convincing evidemce’ suggest no.
This post was edited on 11/29/20 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 11/29/20 at 11:41 pm to JPLSU1981
Just about EVERY player worth a shite these days can make a 1 handed catch. What was witnessed was he had 2 hands on the ball and one came off. That doesn't mean nor was it obvious or apparent that he ever lost control of the ball. It didn't wobble or every come lose from the opposite hand.
He had the ball in his possession when he crossed the line, at least in one hand.
I was a catch and like someone else said, if they were going to over rule a call on the field, it had to be OBVIOUS bad call and it definitely was not.
He had the ball in his possession when he crossed the line, at least in one hand.
I was a catch and like someone else said, if they were going to over rule a call on the field, it had to be OBVIOUS bad call and it definitely was not.
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