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re: The CFP is the worst system for determining a champion...ever.

Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:04 pm to
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10467 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:04 pm to
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It's all about the eye test...


Translation - "It's all about the name on the jersey and how many points you score each week".
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47828 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:05 pm to
Actually the AP and coaches poll system was much more open and democratic. It didn’t matter if you were Ole Miss, BYU or Alabama, if you went undefeated you had a chance. The BCS killed that and now what we have is much much worse because it’s driven solely by TV ratings.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20404 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:06 pm to
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Now, I'll give you 1 second to tell me who you think would win on a neutral field - Bama or Oregon?
This is the type of speculation we need to be removed from this process.
Posted by ConcreteThreshold
Denver, CO
Member since Jun 2017
1193 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:07 pm to
Georgia losing to South Carolina should keep them from the top 6. That’s a REALLY bad loss.
Posted by tigernnola
NOLA
Member since Sep 2016
3589 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:07 pm to
Hate they start milking this in week 10. Why ? Make one damned announcement for the final 4.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47828 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:10 pm to
I think that’s the best way to go. The NFL playoffs are outstanding and you’d be using the same format. Last season alone you had 10 of the remaining top 25 with next to identical records and resumes. So youdve had to pick out of at least 10 teams for the 8th spot and that’s not even counting the 7th. I think 6 is perfect.
Posted by Tigers eyes
Member since Nov 2018
2649 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:14 pm to
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The CFP is the worst system for determining a champion...ever.

No, it's not the playoffs, it's the selection committee that is the worst. But after the SEC dominated college football for a decade those bassturds from the Pac and Big conferences wanted more biased control over the selection. But it's really simple, you win all your games, you win your conference championship, you will get into the CFP, then you win both games. LSU's coaches and players know what they need to do and where they want to go, and it don't matter who gets in their way, they comin' and they sure as hell ain't backin' down from NOBODY!!!
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101358 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:15 pm to
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It could all be fixed by requiring a team to win its conference to get in.

....THIS....


I’m more and more warming to the idea of a definitive pre-defined goal such as this, rather than this yearly or even weekly moving target shite.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
36951 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:17 pm to
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Actually the AP and coaches poll system was much more open and democratic. It didn’t matter if you were Ole Miss, BYU or Alabama, if you went undefeated you had a chance.
I get that, and some of the other arguments made.

The, oh, LSU is #1, shut up is the silly thing to me. That along with it'll all work out in the end. Have faith.

That shouldn't be the points at all. Why have any faith in a system that is completely subjective?

Committee should be showing a snapshot right now, and if I were some teams, I'd be pissed off. Maybe they give you some future love, or maybe they don't. Lol.
Posted by TigerClique21
Member since Sep 2018
426 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:19 pm to
Minnesota and Baylor undefeated no respect after 9 games
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:20 pm to
Why don't we just expand it to 8 teams and cut the conference championship games all together? Is it more or less fair that way? I say more because if LSU plays UGA and loses then they don't get in, but Clemson gets to play a garbage team and get in. Just do away with the CCGs and have the top 8 fight it out.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
17428 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:22 pm to
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Agree with a poster below. Just pick 4 from the 5 conference champs. Leave one out every year. It should be easier that way.



That’s fine and probably how it will shake out.

1 LSU 2 OSU 3 Clemson 4 Oregon

Give me LSU and Joe vs his former team in the championship

ETA. Not that it’s likely but if those 4 teams won out and Auburn won out that’d be your top 4 guaranteed. I’ll be rooting for that scenario.
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 7:24 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47828 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:24 pm to
Agree completely, just because we’re in position now isn’t an excuse to ignore the hypocrisy and corruption because we will be in the receiving end of it in future seasons. The fact that there is no defined parameters let’s you know it’s openly corrupt. They can alter the qualifiers at anytime to favor any team, which always happens to be the same programs btw. This thing is being driven by television viewership but anytime short term results are placed above process and integrity you’re asking for a collapse. If you keep putting the same 4-5 teams in every single season you will water it down. They’ve already had to move the dates to correct a ratings drop but that’s just a band aid.
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6828 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:24 pm to
Old bcs was the best to me.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39207 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:26 pm to
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The five P5 champs automatically qualify

So, if Vandy has four losses, but win the tiebreaker for the SEC East, and beat the West Champ because their star QB got injured, they should automatically get in?
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18661 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:26 pm to
It is better than the media picking it. Some of the claimed championships by teams, ie Bama, are a joke
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:26 pm to
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Just pick 4 from the 5 conference champs. Leave one out every year. It should be easier that way.


yes it is easier that way but it is a really dumb idea. Do you think winning the ACC or Pac 10 or Big 12 is equivalent to winning the SEC or Big 10? What they need to do is just pick the best and most deserving teams. Winning your conference should play a big part in it though, along with quality of wins, W/L record, and the strength and quality of the team (eye test).
All that should go into it. I think the committee should be expanded though by adding additional members to bring it to about 20 on the committee. For example this year, if the rest of the season goes as predicted should be LSU, Ohio St, Clemson, and Oregon. Even though Bama does better than Oregon on the 'eye test' they fall short in other regards.

But if it really is about getting the 4 very best teams (which there should be more to it than that) then obviously Bama would be in before Oregon. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47828 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:27 pm to
That’s pathetic, those programs are in a power 5 confs so they could be included and have their say if they earn their right and the committee is taking that away. The rub is when you have teams on the rise like these they can’t schedule the teams who could put them over the top with schedule strength because the Bamas and Clemson’s of the world won’t play them. So they’re just fricked, they spend the money and do the job it takes to earn their seat at the table then they’re told “nah, Joey Galloways eye test says you don’t belong.” What a crock of shite.
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 7:29 pm
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9036 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:31 pm to
They should pick 4 conference champs plus 4 more.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
36951 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:36 pm to
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just because we’re in position now isn’t an excuse to ignore the hypocrisy and corruption because we will be in the receiving end of it in future seasons. The fact that there is no defined parameters let’s you know it’s openly corrupt. They can alter the qualifiers at anytime to favor any team
Exactly.

I'm probably more upset about Minnesota ranking than anything, and I have no ties or loyalty. They literally beat the team the committee had as #4 last week. Now they're one spot ahead of them, up 9 spots, cuz they had to.

I feel like this is still projection standings. Is that their job? To predict?
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