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re: The blocked punt was 100% illegal and should have been a 1st down for LSU
Posted on 9/15/24 at 7:48 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
Posted on 9/15/24 at 7:48 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
Several years ago we were penalized for jumping over the backfield blocker. Did they change the rule? If not, the refs missed an obvious call.
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 7:50 pm to LSUDad
Refs screwed us all night
Posted on 9/15/24 at 7:50 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
Ronnie Prude 2004 Auburn is shaking his head somewhere .
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 9/15/24 at 7:57 pm to mmcgrath
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He shot through the gap, didn't launch up, and the block was made about 3-4 feet off the ground
He is unblocked at the LOS, gets to the up backs, and supermans himself from a couple of yards back between Sa'vion Jones and the other player who may be Ben Borderlon, but I can't really tell. I think he definitely leaps, dives or bounds, however you want to put it - I don't know if its legal or not?
It is a foul if a defensive player who is inside the tackle box tries to block a punt by leaving his feet and leaping into the plane directly above the frame of the body of an opponent.
It is not a foul if a player leaps through or over the gap between players.
That is excerpted from the rule, looks like it might meet the criteria for leaping through or over the gap between players, so if that is the case, it would be legal?
superman leap happens right around 5:00 mark
Posted on 9/15/24 at 8:00 pm to LSUDad
A no call on an obvious penalty
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:02 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
Those refs (who SC fans claim helped LSU win) were definitely trying to rig it for SC. They even tried to call that blatant fumble saying the QB was down. You cannot jump over the other teams players like that to block a kick.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:09 pm to BigPapiDoesItAgain
quote:He is aiming for the gap but the center blocker moves forward and to block him at the knees. That is why he leaves his feet. He doesn't gain any appreciable height. No rusher is going to keep his feet planted when a blocker is hitting him head first below the waist if he wants to walk away from the play.
It is a foul if a defensive player who is inside the tackle box tries to block a punt by leaving his feet and leaping into the plane directly above the frame of the body of an opponent.
It is not a foul if a player leaps through or over the gap between players.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:10 pm to mmcgrath
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He shot through the gap, didn't launch up, and the block was made about 3-4 feet off the ground.
Yes, LSU is going to have to change how they block.
You are wrong, and should listen to people who actually know the rules.
The protectors are part of what he can't jump over. He runs into a wall of three of them - no gaps, and launches himself up. Blocks the punt, and in the process goes head over heels falling head first towards the ground - exactly what the NCAA was trying to prevent with the rule.
It was a huge miss by the refs, and frankly, I'm surprised the commentators didn't look at it more.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:15 pm to mmcgrath
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He is aiming for the gap
There is no gap. People standing next to eachother means he's over two people, not a gap in between people.
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center blocker moves forward and to block him at the knees
The center blocker doesn't meaningfully change his height or move forward, other than a lean forward to meet contact. The USC player could just crash into the upback but doesn't he tries to go over him.
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He doesn't gain any appreciable height.
He gains height by jumping, and gains angle for blocking the kick by jumping over the blocker and towards where the ball will be kicked.
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:30 pm to Fishhead
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I didn't feel like he jumped over the line, but got blocked that way. Close though for sure
Hell of a block. Knocked him three feet in the air and propelled him forward.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:30 pm to mmcgrath
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He shot through the gap
He didn’t
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didn't launch up
He did. He also used his left hand on the blocker’s right shoulder as leverage, which automatically rules it illegal. Tell me how body positioning would allow a person to do that without going up and over the blocker.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:33 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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This is for LSU fans that think ST was a total disaster and for lurking Gamecock fans that thought the refs were out to get them and costed them the game. That no-call was bigger than the phantom opi.
There was also a no-call block-in-the-back on Sanders' 66 yard TD run.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:56 pm to Purple Spoon
It is a safety issue. That kid could have been horribly hurt. It is illegal.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:00 pm to Tigerstark
quote:There was clearly a gap. The block was in the gap.
There is no gap. People standing next to eachother means he's over two people, not a gap in between people.
quote:He clearly moves forward, at least 3 feet. Jesus, are you just going to lie about what is on video now?
The center blocker doesn't meaningfully change his height or move forward,
quote:The block was about 3 feet off the ground behind the gap between the right and center blockers. He gained ZERO HEIGHT on the play.
He gains height by jumping, and gains angle for blocking the kick by jumping over the blocker and towards where the ball will be kicked.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:03 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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There was also a no-call block-in-the-back on Sanders' 66 yard TD run.
Not to mention the number of ticky tacky blocks in the back called on us.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 1:25 am to Tigerstark
I agree with what you posted.
I also wondered why the commentators said virtually nothing about this as best I recall. Are they aware of the rule. It seems like they could have stated why it did not draw a flag.
I think it was an illegal block and South Carolina got away with it.
I also wondered why the commentators said virtually nothing about this as best I recall. Are they aware of the rule. It seems like they could have stated why it did not draw a flag.
I think it was an illegal block and South Carolina got away with it.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 2:39 am to olgoi khorkhoi
Can't anyone see what the real problem is?
Why don't those 3 blockers move forward 2 yards?????? Problem solved!
Why let someone get that close to your punter in the first place? When you see a guy bust through the LOS, move up a bit and hit the shite out of him.
If they sit there like logs, with a player who is 6'7" then he can jump and block it, because by the time the kicker takes his few steps, he is dam near up those 3 "bump on a log" dudes asses just standing there.
Why don't those 3 blockers move forward 2 yards?????? Problem solved!
Why let someone get that close to your punter in the first place? When you see a guy bust through the LOS, move up a bit and hit the shite out of him.
If they sit there like logs, with a player who is 6'7" then he can jump and block it, because by the time the kicker takes his few steps, he is dam near up those 3 "bump on a log" dudes asses just standing there.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 4:13 am to olgoi khorkhoi
It looked illegal in real time. The SC folks on their whiner board are trying to say he just jumped up and we flipped him or some shite. It was a great effort, but obviously leaping and leveraging.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 4:22 am to Hondo Blacksheep
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The SC folks on their whiner board are trying to say he just jumped up and we flipped him or some shite. It was a great effort, but obviously leaping and leveraging.
He definitely didn't jump straight up, but even if that were the case there's no way the refs could judge that real time. There should have been a flag and a review.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 4:30 am to TigerKnights
Is that even reviewable? If so, I think that would have worked to our advantage, but that might be a judgment call that either gets made or not I'm really not sure.
Doesn't matter now, I guess, just another controversy in our lore.
Doesn't matter now, I guess, just another controversy in our lore.
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 5:16 am
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