re: TGBFTL in Zulu parade

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Irish LSU Fan

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These aren't politicians we are talking about. Or government employees getting tax dollars. This is a mardi gras parade. Those who disagree with it, don't go.

LSU hasn't endorsed all things zulu-related. They are simply marching in a parade to show support for the LSU student Queen.

That's it. Stop being so overly sensitive about something that doesn't have to negatively affect anyone unless you want it to.

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if the majority of black people in New Orleans think it's ok and not racist to them, who the hell am I to tell them they are wrong?


The definition of racism is not defined by the "people of New Orleans." Our national conscience does. If the majority of (white) people in a given city believe black people should sit in the rear of the bus, it is still racist

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Sorry bro, but this parade rolls in New Orleans, not across America. And in New Orleans, the hundreds of thousands of people that attend the parade aren't there because they don't want to be. No one if forced to attend and no one if forced to wear blackface.

Each person decides what they feel is racist and you can't speak for others (especially not the many people that willingly attend this parade in their hometown and get enjoyment from it rather than negative feelings).

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But if black people choose to sit in the rear of the bus it’s not

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Wrong!! Same as hazing.....just because a pledge agrees to do it (or have it done to them) does not excuse it from the definition of hazing. Racism and racist acts are what they are no matter who in Louisiana agrees with it.

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These aren't politicians we are talking about. Or government employees getting tax dollars. This is a mardi gras parade. Those who disagree with it, don't go.

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Zulu can do whatever it wants. I have not stated that Zulu can't require its members to dress in blackface.

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LSU hasn't endorsed all things zulu-related.

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Yes, they have. The same as if they were marching in the "Krewe of KKK." When you come across something as vile as racism, you speak up and make sure you are not supporting it. If you owned a bar and a Klansman entered in his klan robe, would you serve them?

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So a black person is being racist for wanting to and choosing to sit in the back of a bus?

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Of course not. Listen, I don't make the policies related to hazing, the university does. If a pledge agrees with and allows himself to be urinated upon, that is still hazing!!! Please get a grip. If you have an all-white university and you have a "racist policy" that everyone on campus agrees with, guess what......it's still racist!!!

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So these Zulu people are like the KKK?

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No. However, if the KKK had a parade, there would probably be some racist stuff on display. Remember, the intent (or lack of intent) of racism DOES NOT excuse the act. A mostly black group in New Orleans has already called on Zulu to eliminate the blackface!!
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Yes, they have. The same as if they were marching in the "Krewe of KKK." When you come across something as vile as racism, you speak up and make sure you are not supporting it. If you owned a bar and a Klansman entered in his klan robe, would you serve them?

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So, let me get this straight. You're saying that LSU is supporting racism by letting the band march in Zulu because Zulu lets their riders paint their faces black like ancient Zulu Warriors? That about sum it up?

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Yes, they have. The same as if they were marching in the "Krewe of KKK." When you come across something as vile as racism, you speak up and make sure you are not supporting it. If you owned a bar and a Klansman entered in his klan robe, would you serve them?

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What if they marched in Rex. Rex is traditionally all male riders (sounds pretty sexist to me) and it started to honor a Duke from Russia (anti-american). LSU shouldn't endorse those sentiments, right?

Zulu chooses to do something to honor those of the past. There is no negative intent behind it. They aren't mocking anyone.

I'm italian. If my friend calls me a dago, I couldn't care less. If someone calls me that in the heat of a fight, it means a little more (though I still don't really care, but you get the point).

Cultural and social issues aren't as black and white as you believe.

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To use your logic: No women should be allowed in the women's restroom cuz it would be against the law for men o enter the women's restroom.

Please schedule a cat-scan.

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I am just using your logic here. You are the one that claimed that if something is bad in one instance then it must be bad in all instances.

Well then, if it is bad for men to go in the women's restroom then it must also be bad for women to go in there.

You see how using blanket statements and not judging every situation individually doesn't work?