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re: Texas OL linemen to get 50k/yr (NIL)

Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:11 pm to
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:11 pm to
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The NCAA has no power anymore.

The best we can hope for is that schools agree to a salary cap.
Posted by logansrun
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:40 pm to
The big and rich will buy players while the low and poor will get poorer.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:00 pm to
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How is that any different from what it already is? I


It puts the money above the table for everyone to see and no need for the shady bag man which somewhat limited the money going around. Now there are no limits.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:10 pm to
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Only 6 teams have won a NC since 2010. Only 11 in the last 21 years. There's really only 15-20 teams that could legitimately compete for a NC.


I think it will just change which schools those 15-20 teams are.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:11 pm to
Not really. The difference between the haves and have nots was already money.
Posted by coonass27
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:16 pm to
I disagree. Sure pay for play and $100 hand shakes have been going on forever under the table and a couple of prizes athletes as well as their families benefited more than normal ones, but it wasn’t an all out minor league type situation on pay. 50k a year to play football on a free ride with no bills is great for 18 year old kids. I’ve said it all along. Within 10 years, you are going to have plus/minus 10’schools at the top and it’s all the ones with money. Texas, usc, notre dame, bama, OSU, UM, Oregon, and a couple more historic and schools with deep pockets will be the schools in the hunt year in and year out. You have to put it together but it’s a lot easier to put together when your lines are the best of the best.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:19 pm to
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Not really. The difference between the haves and have nots was already money.



I don't know about that, looks like Texas is about to join the haves for the first time in a long time. I bet USC, Oregon, Texas A&M, and Notre Dame won't be far behind them along with a handful of other schools who haven't done shite in a long time, if ever.

I mean to some extent it was always about money, but when it was under the table, it wasn't the main thing in most cases for most players. Now it looks like it is going to turn into a full on all out bidding war for players and recruits.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 10:26 pm
Posted by The Hurricane
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:25 pm to
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What about gender equity Get ready for the lawsuit from women's sports teams

Non revenue generating sports are about to learn who actually pays their bills and a lesson in free market.
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:37 pm to
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The program is the product. If the nfl was forced to start a minor league and the top 25 players from Louisiana every year played for the AAA Louisiana crawfish and the next 25 top players went to the AA Louisiana oysters and the next 25 went to LSU. Tiger stadium would still put close to 100,000 in the stands and the AAA team and the AA team would be playing in front sparse crowds mostly of their parents and girlfriends.


Yeah this would be true for a year or two. But when those college football teams sucked - ie the product was bad - and football fans saw a better product from the minor league teams, people would watch that.

You guys like LSU the football team and might only watch LSU. But other people would watch better football.


How about SEC baseball games vs a AA or AAA baseball game?

Omaha vs the AAA World Series?

A Kentucky basketball game vs a D League basketball game?

Colleges would draw better than a “minor” league by far because fans have a connection to the schools. Minor league teams have no fan bases even with “better” talent
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:40 pm to
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I bet the NCAA makes changes to the NIL after schools do stuff like this.


I thought I'd like NIL, but I don't like this at all. Now Saban will have to buy players Mercedes S550's now instead of Challengers
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:41 pm to
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Non revenue generating sports are about to learn who actually pays their bills and a lesson in free market.

Absolutely. The only way any women athletes get big nil contracts is of they're very attractive or a top 5 player in their respective sport.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:43 pm to
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The only way any women athletes get big nil contracts is of they're very attractive


Olivia Dunne is smoking hot and you're right.
Posted by The Hurricane
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:46 pm to
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The only way any women athletes get big nil contracts is of they're very attractive or a top 5 player in their respective sport.

They’ll have their opportunities if they have a following on social media platforms, but I hope this pushes them to be better at their respective sport. If you can get a better athlete on campus via more NIL money, then more than likely your team will have a better chance at succeeding and not bleeding money. Win/win for all.
Posted by red sox fan 13
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:49 pm to
Blows my mind that we don’t have something like this. You just need to set up a company, call it “Forever LSU, Inc.” or something like that and set aside a cut of football profits plus fan donations. Run NIL advertisements featuring every player on the team by taking out ads in the paper or something. Then if you spend about $9 million a season (let’s be real, LSU has shown that it’s not afraid to spend money), every player on the team can make north of $100,000 a year. LSU would rake in and keep talent.
Posted by QB
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:50 pm to
This is the beginning of the richest schools and boosters dominating college football. Sad day for college football and probably all college sports.
Posted by The Hurricane
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:54 pm to
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Then if you spend about $9 million a season (let’s be real, LSU has shown that it’s not afraid to spend money), every player on the team can make north of $100,000 a year. LSU would rake in and keep talent.

Problem lies in non revenue generating athletes will throw a fit. It would need to be a separate entity not affiliated with LSU/TAF.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:09 pm to
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It would need to be a separate entity not affiliated with LSU/TAF.



looks like to me UT has the perfect set up. A nonprofit charity set up to where boosters could donate to the charity, and write off the donation. The charity then pays all the players on the team for their NIL to promote the charity from the donations. The players then in return visit hospitals, orphanages, childrens hospitals, mental institutions, prisons, schools, etc.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 11:13 pm
Posted by red sox fan 13
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:12 pm to
It’s a win win for their boosters because they pay less taxes and their money goes to buying good players. The problem is Texas oilmen have 10x the money of an LSU or hell even Alabama. If there’s no limit other places aren’t going to be able to compete payment-wise.
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The players then in return visit hospitals, orphanages, childrens hospitals, mental institutions, prisons, schools, etc.
bullshite. They’ll do a photo op and get paid 50K.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:33 pm to
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The problem is Texas oilmen have 10x the money of an LSU or hell even Alabama. If there’s no limit other places aren’t going to be able to compete payment-wise.


I agree that there should be a salary cap but for right now there has to be something set up so we can at least try to compete on some scale.

$8.5 million per year divided by 85 scholarship players equals $100k per player. Then maybe another $6.5 mill divided out to your top players according to their value for a total of $15 mill a year budgeted out for NIL pay. That would be a good start until a salary cap is put in place, if one ever is.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:34 pm to
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I bet the NCAA makes changes to the NIL after schools do stuff like this.
The NCAA doesn't make state law.
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