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re: Stop with the money excuse; it takes time to build a program

Posted on 11/8/26 at 5:31 pm to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 11/8/26 at 5:31 pm to
5th nationally since NIL began. His last year at OM he retained 62.8% of his players, we retained 28% this season for reference. The year before at OM (2024) he retained the 2nd most players of any SEC team, in 2023 he retained 65%. So you’re just incorrect here.
This post was edited on 11/8/26 at 5:38 pm
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/8/26 at 5:43 pm to
Not one person has said lane is above criticism but throwing a full on tantrum because we aren’t contending in year 1 isn’t really reasonable either.

Also blindly comparing records and saying the team is basically the exact same as it was a year ago is lazy and dumb. The team is really not far off from being a contender, it’s just missing a few critical pieces.
Posted by ValleyTNTIGER
wherever i go that's where i am
Member since Sep 2010
1105 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 5:56 pm to
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Not one person has said lane is above criticism but throwing a full on tantrum because we aren’t contending in year 1 isn’t really reasonable either. Also blindly comparing records and saying the team is basically the exact same as it was a year ago is lazy and dumb. The team is really not far off from being a contender, it’s just missing a few critical pieces.


Well said.


My expectation is a full review of his own performance when he completes the staff evaluation. If there are no changes over time and same results recur, then I will complain. Right now, I am just disappointed and upset over the loss to that school. They will get a home game in playoffs if not a bye. They are better than many other teams out there and may be only team that can play Georgia in a good game in the championship.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53917 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 6:06 pm to


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Kirby took 6 years at UGA.

Nick took 4 years at LSU and 3 years at Bama.

Harbaugh took damn near 10 years at Michigan.

Ryan Day took 6 years at OSU and still isn’t consistent.


These examples all have one thing in common: most of the years cited (and in some cases all) came from pre NIL era.

The concept of multi year development projects to rebuild a team is gone. Every year is a new rebuild as good players who are standing in a starters shadow transfer out and you have to find replacements in the portal.

HS recruiting is getting close to irrelevant. Be curious to see in a few years how many players stay with one school their entire careers.
This post was edited on 11/8/26 at 6:07 pm
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163623 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 6:12 pm to
Yeah and again with good interior OL play all 3 of our losses could have easily gone the other way as the losses are largely a result of an inability to finish drives or convert at critical times.

Really it says a lot about Lane that the offense has been as good as it is in year one with the flaws. So yeah another year of not being in the thick of it sucks but at least vs. the BK era I feel like we’re really close
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
2439 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 6:49 pm to
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Kiffin was an excellent talent recruiter and roster builder, but he operated with substantial roster turnover. He regularly rebuilt his team through the transfer portal rather than maintaining a consistent group of players.



And his rentention rate from his full six years @ Ole Miss is 56.1%

The leashes are shorter and shorter now with money involved

This post was edited on 11/8/26 at 6:52 pm
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
17637 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 6:55 pm to
Every national championship last year in every sport was won with transfers.

Kiffin is just a bad coach. The players didn’t lose that game last night, Kiffin did.
Posted by Knuckle Puck
Member since Oct 2026
145 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 6:57 pm to
this program is dead whether you want to admit it or not. 32 losses in the last 6.5 years.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96813 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 7:08 pm to
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we had to spend a lot just to get back into the top bracket of teams.


Define "top bracket".
Posted by Born in BR
Ormond Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2007
581 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 7:18 pm to
I agree, however, I think Kiffin will have us up and running beginning next year. and even better the next year. What was it, 50 players arrived at LSU with the portal, and they are playing well, however, just inconsistent.
Posted by TigerGrad03
Member since Dec 2024
1209 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 7:24 pm to
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Cignetti made freaking Indiana into a playoff team in one year and won an NC in year two.


Stop with this. He can get credit for year 2 and being innovative in grabbing 26 and 27 year-olds from the portal, but in year 1 he played 1 ranked team in the regular season(Ohio St.) and got blasted. The remaining regular season schedule had a combined record of 26-62 (not including the Div II school). Even adding Ohio St. into that record it would be 33-64 combined record of all D1 teams they played in his first year, so no his first year doesn't mean shite. Their best win was 5-4 Michigan that year.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
24520 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 7:42 pm to
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I mean you pretty much do if you have a competent coach. Every year the roster flips as if it’s year 1. They didn’t lose to Bama and ole Miss because Kiffin needs more time. This roster is super talented

Super talented???

Name a good O Lineman outside of Seaton and Moore (and Moore's really more just competent).

Name a top WR (a guy you'd draft) outside Harris.

Find me the great linebackers.

Who are the competent specialists?

List the backup/depth guys that can step in and we dont miss a beat.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
76211 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 8:09 pm to
Don’t know what to tell you if you don’t want to acknowledge the information and just sulk about the loss. Kiffin made bad decisions in this game, Baker cost us the other 2. The money on the roster was well spent and will be a foundation for the next couple years unless Kiffin decides to do a 180 on his roster building approach.
This post was edited on 11/8/26 at 8:15 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
76211 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 8:12 pm to
Why?
Posted by 818 Tiger
Member since May 2026
261 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 8:18 pm to
It doesn’t

Our problems are O line and QB. Mostly QB. We miffed on Leavitt. He’s not terrible but he’s not a 5 million dollar QB either.
Posted by SparkyWilson
Member since May 2026
671 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 9:01 pm to
NIL has all the money out in the open now with a lot more flowing into way more programs than before.

When people shell out, they expect results. Yeah, it takes time, but the new paradigm does lend itself to allowing for that time.
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