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re: Stop with the BS narrative about strength of schedule
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:28 am to cbree88
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:28 am to cbree88
quote:I think Bama's AD had a great point...consider Indiana's schedule:
Stop with the BS narrative about strength of schedule
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Indiana has not beaten a single team ranked in the top 25 but it gets better. They have beaten only one team this season with a winning record and that is 7-5 Michigan.
Indiana’s schedule:
UCLA 5-7
Maryland= 4-8
NU= 4-8
Neb= 6-6
Wash= 6-6
MSU= 3-6
Mich= 7-5
Purdue= 1-11
Out of conference juggernauts
FIU= 4-8
Western Illinois= 4-8
Charlotte= 5-7
His point is that strength of schedule was not shown to be too important for teams like Indiana and SMU getting at large spots in the playoffs. If an SEC team will already have a tough conference schedule, why make it harder with a hard OOC opponent?
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 10:29 am
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:35 am to cbree88
The committee made a big point out of the FACT that 2 of Alabama's losses were to non-ranked teams. And I will go further to say that the great Alabama football team did NOT even score a TD vs OU. LSU had no problem running up the score vs OU...Alabama couldn't even get in the end zone. And if Alabama plays a weak OOC schedule it will be no easier than this year's OOC. Wisconsin was SUPPOSED to be decent but didn't even make a bowl game for the first time 24 years. And W Kentucky, Mercer, and S Florida...
Little Nicky was whining about why play anybody tough OOC if you aren't going to get credit for it. {whispering} Alabama played NOBODY OOC this season. Oh, and Alabama didn't play Texas...didn't play Ole Miss...didn't play A&M...and barely beat Georgia and S Carolina (both home games for Alabama I might add)
Alabama, just keep making excuses for not being good enough to make a 12 team playoff. I'm just
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Alabama, just keep making excuses for not being good enough to make a 12 team playoff. I'm just
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:39 am to NotaStarGazer
As a fan of a non-SEC team, I’m tired of hearing 3 loss SEC teams whine with the SoS argument. Don’t lose to Vandy and got blown out by an average OU team.
The SEC is the one who added all these schools. Blame yourself.
The SEC is the one who added all these schools. Blame yourself.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:44 am to cajun12
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Everyone losing their minds because Alabama got left out…..ole Miss had a better argument IMO…all their losses were by 1 score or less
That’s all well and good, but Bama had 3 wins over currently ranked teams and 2 losses to currently unranked teams, while Ole Miss had only 2 wins over currently ranked teams and 3 losses to unranked teams, including 4-8 Kentucky. Bama’s schedule was significantly more difficult and they managed the same record.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:57 am to terriblegreen
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The point is..... In the SEC, your strength of schedule will be just fine if you play 4 OOC cupcakes.
You mean if you buttfrick your fans who pay to see competitive football games.
Your highlight of the season was the Nicholls St game.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:58 am to MikeTheTiger71
The way I would have ranked the non-playoff SEC teams would have been S Carolina, then Alabama, then Ole Miss. Alabama could have easily lost the S Carolina game at home...won by 2 points. S Carolina won first downs, rushing yards, passing yards, and time of possession. S Carolina outplayed LSU in that loss in Columbia but having to play an incompetent QB in the 2nd half due to injury to Sellars was the difference there. Alabama beat LSU easily while LSU beat Ole Miss which is a negative against Ole Miss. South Carolina was on the roll and the only blemish really was losing badly to Ole Miss. But they blew out A&M, Vandy, even beat Clemson the last game of the regular season which concluded that season on a 6 game winning streak. IMO, S Carolina should have been rated above Alabama in the final rankings.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:01 am to cbree88
Bama also didn’t play om atm or Florida. They had an easy schedule
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:27 am to cajun12
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everyone losing their minds because Alabama got left out…..ole Miss had a better argument IMO…all their losses were by 1 score or less
Good point about OM, and I would offer with SOS USCe had a GOOD argument too. 3 losses: Bama by 2, LSU by 3, and OM by 24 (yep, bad lost). Beat ranked Clemson (ACC Conf champ), ranked TAM and ranked Mizzou. They were playing their best FB at the end of the season with a dynamic QB.
Indiana played one ranked opponent all season and got beat by 23. I watched the 1st half of that game and OSU had a INT inside the Indiana 5 and another T/O on their side of the field. It could have been much worse.
SMU played two ranked opponents all season and lost both games.
Not upset Bama didn't make it, but do believe the commitee is not giving SOS the proper attention/consideration it deserves. LK makes a good argument about it, not only for this season but the future. Guaranteed in the coming years LSU will have a 2-3 loss season, and we'll be looking for SOS to help solidify our spot in the CFP.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:28 am to Nutriaitch
True, just handle Vandy and Oklahoma on the road. And that Sooners game happened two weeks before the end of the season.
They got blown out - nearly shut out. - by a poor Oklahoma team, in November. THAT is why they didn’t make it.
They got blown out - nearly shut out. - by a poor Oklahoma team, in November. THAT is why they didn’t make it.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:32 am to cbree88
SOS is institutionalized and absolutely matters to the selection process in NCAA Basketball. Why would that be different for football?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:49 am to Chicken
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His point is that strength of schedule was not shown to be too important for teams like Indiana and SMU getting at large spots in the playoffs. If an SEC team will already have a tough conference schedule, why make it harder with a hard OOC opponent?
I think it’s still important to play a strong schedule. It can be the deciding factor that gets you into the playoffs over a team who played a weak schedule if you have the same record as them or if you have one more loss.
Alabama lost 2 more games during the regular season than Indiana or SMU, which was too much to overcome. I’m only using regular season records so that we can compare apples to apples instead of apples to oranges.
Even if Alabama had gone 10-2 instead of 9-3, they would have made it into the playoffs and likely been seeded higher than either 11-1 Indiana or 11-1 SMU (SMU would have been out actually).
So no, I think I’m still not buying it.
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 11:56 am
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:58 am to cbree88
SMU getting in doesn’t mean Bama deserved to get in. It simply means 12 teams is too many. There are not 12 deserving teams. Neither Bama nor SMU should be anywhere near a college football playoff this year.
Make this a 6 or 8 team playoff and you get some pretty interesting matchups.
Make this a 6 or 8 team playoff and you get some pretty interesting matchups.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:13 pm to cbree88
quote:I guarantee you that Alabama's Strength of Schedule would still be far higher than SMU's (and Indiana's) without Bama playing a tough OOC game...so the point is why risk a potential loss in an OOC game?
I think it’s still important to play a strong schedule. It can be the deciding factor that gets you into the playoffs over a team who played a weak schedule if you have the same record as them or if you have one more loss.
OOC games didn't affect Bama this year, but it could affect them down the road. LSU is in the same boat. I think this is fairly obvious.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:18 pm to Chicken
Strength of schedule is clearly a factor in the rankings. It just isn’t the only factor.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:20 pm to cajun12
To teams with winning records
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:29 pm to cbree88
Nah bro if any played sec dumpster fires all year they would have 2-3losses from these guys aubie, ms st, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Fl. I don’t think the record deserves as much credit as strength of schedule record. Who are smu quality wins?? Football needs to go the way of college basketball with quad1 quad2 quad3 wins etc. They need to matter it needs to matter a fricking lot. And the auto bid does not mean your guaranteed one of th top seeds it means your guaranteed a spot in the playoffs.
The human element needs to get fricked and be gone, need to use a combo of bcs model with a certain requirement for a number of quad wins or something
The human element needs to get fricked and be gone, need to use a combo of bcs model with a certain requirement for a number of quad wins or something
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