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Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:11 am to boxcar willie
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but I expect him to be able to hit open, short passes, like he has in previous weeks
we just don't incorporate it into our offense enough for it to be a smooth functioning part of the offense. Takes time for the QB's and receivers to become comfortable with it and find its rythymn
LSU does a poor job of really maxing out on the talent they have on offense when it comes to situations like Saturday. I think we tried one or two passes to Fournette and that was it because we didn't get a completion.
When we saw that that running him clearly wasn't going to work, we could've lined Fournette up as a WR and put Williams or Guice in the backfield. I guarantee that Bama would have started having some "oh shite" moments because they had completely scouted what they had seen on film and were zoned in on stopping that. Fournette was very good WR in high school and we barely use him in that fashion.
We basically use two WRs and that's it. Diarse, Quinn and Johnson have a total of 8 receptions on the year combined.
Our defensive players said after the game that Bama saved a lot of different offensive looks that they had not seen on film for the game. You did not hear any Bama players saying they saw something different from LSU.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:17 am to Tigerinthehollow
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BH was the difference. Most said it would come down to him if he could make bama back off LSU could win...if he couldn't then LSU wouldn't. We must have watched 2 different games. BH had a few nice passes. But he had many VERY poor passes...the deep ball was open all night....saban is no genius...he simply said let's make BH best us....he couldn't.
He couldn't or was it he wasn't allowed to? Good coaching provides schemes to put players in position to succeed. The history of college football shows innovative schemes can overcome talent disparities. It was obvious LSU couldn't run against Bama with the game plan that was in place. Good coaching would have devised a plan to overcome the great run defense of Bama. Not continually do what is not working.
Make Fournette a pass receiver to get the ball to him in space. Place Guice and Fournette in the backfield together and spread them out as pass receivers. Spread the field, go 4 -5 wides and pass Bama's arse to death. What's the worst could happen? You lose the game? Have LF motion out of the backfield into the slot. What linebacker is going to stay with him as a slot receiver? Why not run the wildcat and let LF pass out of it. Jet sweep from the wildcat formation with Williams at FB, Donte' Jackson or Derrius Guice in motion and Fournette faking or handing off to the FB, the motion guy or keeping. That might slow the DL down a bit. Creativity was missing in action for LSU Saturday. So was good coaching. But that's nothing new.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:35 am to Big EZ Tiger
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Our defensive players said after the game that Bama saved a lot of different offensive looks that they had not seen on film for the game. You did not hear any Bama players saying they saw something different from LSU.
Exactly. The DB that intercepted Brandon, said he saw the same play earlier and knew where he needed to be. That same formation, with a play off of the DB thinking its the same play is what great play calling accomplishes. Not running the same play over and over where the defense knows exactly what you are going to do. Miles is going to give us all heart attacks and kill us all. Pathetic!
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:36 am to roscoe mike
Yeah, and STOP BLAMING THE SKY FOR RAIN!
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:38 am to roscoe mike
Yeah, right until Bama lines up against an Urban Meyer led football team. The staff failed the players. Again.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:39 am to justustm2
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Exactly. The DB that intercepted Brandon, said he saw the same play earlier and knew where he needed to be. That same formation, with a play off of the DB thinking its the same play is what great play calling accomplishes.
It was LB, but keep making shite up.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:40 am to roscoe mike
Yes, we'll stop blaming the coaching staff for the loss as soon as we stop blaming bama's coaching staff for the win.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:45 am to km
So, the consensus here is that a different coach, with the LSU roster, would have beaten Bama Saturday night...correct?
And what coach?
And what coach?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:50 am to roscoe mike
I thought Kevin Steele called a great game. We have our limitations on defense with a thin front 7, and Kiffin did his best to control the clock for a big second half.
Cam Cameron and of course Bradley frickstick Peveto are the two I'm furious with. Special teams was its usual self, just this time our players' safety were in jeopardy. Cameron showed signs of why he's been fired from his last 4 jobs. Two weeks, and THAT'S what he came up with?
Cam Cameron and of course Bradley frickstick Peveto are the two I'm furious with. Special teams was its usual self, just this time our players' safety were in jeopardy. Cameron showed signs of why he's been fired from his last 4 jobs. Two weeks, and THAT'S what he came up with?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:52 am to roscoe mike
Saban, Harbaugh, Kiffen, any coach that is willing to change and adapt to the times.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:54 am to Tigerinthehollow
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Hopefully we learned
I don't believe we have. look at the last 5 meetings.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:55 am to tigerbait2010
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Cam Cameron and of course Bradley frickstick Peveto are the two I'm furious with. Special teams was its usual self, just this time our players' safety were in jeopardy. Cameron showed signs of why he's been fired from his last 4 jobs. Two weeks, and THAT'S what he came up with?
Agreed. However, calls were rejected by Miles thus having Cameron come up with 2nd and 3rd choices. That's probably why we had delay of game penalties and forced time outs.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:44 pm to km
a Cam Cameron style offense is just not going to work against a team like Alabama. It seems to depend on having superior personnel than the opponent to work. It relies on overpowering the defense which has very little chance of working against Bama and really isn't even very good against lessor opponents.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:46 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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There were 8 to 9 near the los almost every single play.
No no there wasn't, they played a 7 man front, jesus fricking christ
Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:51 pm to Mohican
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The buck always stops with the coach. Whether it's gameplan, execution, talent, or motivation. That's the coaches job.
OK. then he's outdone over 87% of the coaches he's played this year. We aren't Bama. Nobody is. Except for Ohio State. Every fan base wants to be the top program. Not everybody can be.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:57 pm to roscoe mike
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So, the consensus here is that a different coach, with the LSU roster, would have beaten Bama Saturday night...correct?
And what coach?
Hugh Freeze?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:18 pm to Bricktop
We might want to add a QB to this recruiting class so we don't have to play first or second year qbs
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:24 pm to TheSexecutioner
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We aren't Bama. Nobody is. Except for Ohio State. Every fan base wants to be the top program. Not everybody can be.
True, but we recruit as well as Bama, so our incoming talent is about the same.
With little or no talent gap, the difference between us and Bama is coaching (player development, staff, scheme, motivation, etc.).
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:34 pm to atltiger6487
Both our offensive and defensive lines got manhandled by Alabama's lines pure and simple. I disagree with LSU continuously trying to develop a running game when it obviously wasn't working, but establishing a passing game was just as hard with Bama's D line getting through. That being said I believe it was 60/40 overpowered under coached
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