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re: Stop blaming the coaching staff...

Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:08 am to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:08 am to
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You mean like the touch he had on the pass Dural dropped on that slant route?

The would-have-been 2 yard reception? Yes, no touch. Did you not see Alabama drop a 1st down pass? Did that destroy their QB's game? LSU's wide receivers >>>>> Alabama's WR's.

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Mett had plenty of touched on the short pass but couldn't throw an accurate deep ball to save his fricking life.
Mett >>>>>> Harris
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84434 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:09 am to
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Yet we don't really run an offense that fits this preference. Probably the biggest ongoing issue with the team: Miles recruits QB's mismatched to what he ultimately wants to do. The best offenses under Miles have utilized pocket passers: Russell, Flynn, Mettenberger. But we seem to go after dual threat QB's anyway.


It drives me crazy. Go to Florida where the teams run the ball 90% of the time and there are countless qb's who come from run-heavy offenses and have decent arms.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115268 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:10 am to
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There was no method of game planning or preparation that could have offset what occurred on both lines of scrimmage against Bama.


bullshite.

It was 1/9/12 all over again. Complete domination and a coaching staff that was deer in the headlights impotent to adjust. The only difference was LSU somehow actually scored points.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:11 am to
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Coker did not throw for ONE frickING TOUCHDOWN in this game. Coker is a 23 year old red shirt senior. And has thrown for more interception in one quarter than Harris has thrown all season. Coker couldn't even be out a fricking running back to win the starting qb position last year and this is the guy you rather have over Harris. You are fricking stupid please stop trying to assess qb play


Exactly. A good OC knows how to make dogshit look like tiramisù.

That's what Kiffin does for them. Do people really think Sims and Coker are good quarterbacks?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89701 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:11 am to
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Les's style of simply lining up in 2 tight set I 


This just shows you don't watch the games. This isn't the only formation they tried to run out of Saturday. How bout this, go watch the game and actually come back here with facts, don't just post something you saw another idiot post and run with it as fact.

The longest run of the night came out of the II, BTW.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 9:14 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55405 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:12 am to
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Bama was stacking box and daring us to throw deep


No. No they weren't. They were stopping us WITHOUT stacking the box. Very rarely did they bring numbers.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115268 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:13 am to
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This isn't the only formation they tried to run out of Saturday


It was clear by the 2nd Quarter that formation was irrelevant. Unless you could make Bama respect the pass, there was no running on them.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:13 am to
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There was no method of game planning or preparation that could have offset what occurred on both lines of scrimmage against Bama. It's that simple.


While I agree that the talent differential on the lines was very apparent, who is responsible for that? We didn't sign a single DT last year and the 2 DTs from the previous year are both gone already.

Posted by LSUCouyon
ONTHELAKEATDELHI, La.
Member since Oct 2006
11338 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:13 am to
"If we had their QB we would have scored more, even if you told him he couldn't run. And he isn't some record breaking thrower."

Coker has thrown how many interceptions? with the protection that Harris wasn't getting, Coker would have thrown several more ints.
Posted by Ex-Popcorn
Member since Nov 2005
2368 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:14 am to
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This just shows you don't watch the games. This isn't the only formation they tried to run out of Saturday. How bout this, go watch the game and actually come back here with facts, don't just post something you saw another idiot post and run with it as fact.


I've watched the game twice. I said base set. And, yes. That's our base set. And we ran it a majority of the game. I live in the world of statistics, bro. I'm sorry you live with blinders on.
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:15 am to
I think most of u do not no much about football. Defense wins big games! I don,t think Steel is the man. If he was that good Saban would not have let him go! Flame away.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:15 am to
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Jeter pulled his hand away because he realized the ball wasn't thrown to him...not his fault. Of course had he known the ball was thrown right to the bama player he would have reacted differently


Jeter knew the DE dropped back in coverage with him, but whatever I agree Harris should have never thrown that pass.

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Do you realize how many deep balls were open. We had huge mismatches there.


Were they opened after Harris was sacked or tried to dump the pass off? If there were huge mismatches why did we continue to run the ball?

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You keep acting like BH was the only reason we scored and therefore was one of the few bright spots.


How else were we gonna score if not for BH?

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You have to realize bamas game plan was to make Harris best them therefore we had mismatches in the secondary and big plays to be made....bama gambled that Harris couldn't do it consistently...they were correct.


We all know this, this is not something new you are trying to explain to me. My question to you is why did we continue to run the ball if this was Saban's challenge to LSU? BH was not calling the plays.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37339 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:16 am to
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Coker did not throw for ONE frickING TOUCHDOWN in this game. Coker is a 23 year old red shirt senior. And has thrown for more interception in one quarter than Harris has thrown all season. Coker couldn't even be out a fricking running back to win the starting qb position last year and this is the guy you rather have over Harris.
Yes. He made really nice throws all night even when under pressure. He finished 18 for 24.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83724 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:17 am to
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The guys who hate Les think the players make no mistakes and play well every game, it's just the coaches that put them in the positions they're in.
sorry, but if anyone questions the gameplan, then they are a les hater? that's beyond faulty logic here.

both coaches and players deserve blame here. even though I've been told that blaming players (aka kids who are not getting paid) is classless.

also, i think it's a little ironic that you make that comment about saban refusing to change his scheme on the defensive side. hmm...sound a little familiar to someone we know on the offensive side?
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 9:18 am
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:19 am to
Harris is better than Coker. Kiffin is just that much better than Miles/Cameron.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:20 am to
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The would-have-been 2 yard reception?



Do you even YAC, brah?????

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Yes, no touch. Did you not see Alabama drop a 1st down pass?


You are off your meds? How can QB control drops? Dural should have caught that ball no questions asked.

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LSU's wide receivers >>>>> Alabama's WR's.


How did you come to that conclusion?
Posted by JLFarnsworth
Member since Aug 2015
34 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:22 am to
I think you're mostly right. I do think he kept us in the game the first half. But for me, we've had opportunities to develop our passing game and have not. BH has proven he's capable and could shoulder more responsibility. They have willfully chosen not to do some things in the passing game and instead rely on Fournette. It's been the story all year, but we magically think these things will appear in big games.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:24 am to
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Yes. He made really nice throws all night even when under pressure. He finished 18 for 24.



I cannot even fathom how little you know about QBs.
Posted by PaulT78
Lake Charles
Member since Aug 2013
454 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:25 am to
If Miles woulda changed the gameplan and that didn't work then He can dodge most of the blame but that didnt happen. He continued to Run LF into a brick wall. No spread or tempo offense whatsoeverto offset Bama rush. Les never switched. Thats on the coach. Moffit deserves blame too cause both lines got manhandled all game. Camerons hould be fired asap.

Its always easy to beat up on lesser teams but what happens You face a team who is just as good as You and You gotta ha e a Plan B. Les had no Plan B.

Thats a Coaching Problem!!
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:26 am to
It's the staff's fault, period. They call the plays. They watch the film.

The philosophy DOES NOT WIRK AGAINST BAMA, there is proof there!!

Not changing it is the simple definition of insanity
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