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Some logic, so be kind...
Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:52 am
Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:52 am
LSU baseball only measures NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS as a good year. The Intimidater is what the LSU baseball brand is. It's all or nothing. This expectation fosters the mindset for the players to be all in and not just win the SEC or make it to Omaha. We all think it's cute to see 8 trips to Omaha in Georgia's outfield.
If you polled all LSU baseball fans in 2022 if they are ok with 2 Championships, 2 Regional appearances on the road and 1 missed playoff in first 5 years for new coach Jay Johnson, the answer is YES!
More logic, we would all like the missed playoff year to be year one. However, everyone felt he overachieved in his first four years. JJ actually has the record for fastest coach ever to two Championships in first 4 seasons.
Most reasonable fans will give coach JJ a pass for 2025, PROVIDED it never f'ing happens again!!!!!!!!!!!!! You've used your last challenge coach, no more remaining!
If you polled all LSU baseball fans in 2022 if they are ok with 2 Championships, 2 Regional appearances on the road and 1 missed playoff in first 5 years for new coach Jay Johnson, the answer is YES!
More logic, we would all like the missed playoff year to be year one. However, everyone felt he overachieved in his first four years. JJ actually has the record for fastest coach ever to two Championships in first 4 seasons.
Most reasonable fans will give coach JJ a pass for 2025, PROVIDED it never f'ing happens again!!!!!!!!!!!!! You've used your last challenge coach, no more remaining!
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:54 am to champj3
Not even making a Regional is a historically bad year
Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:57 am to champj3
I’m ok with a natty every other year. Seems fair to the rest of the sport. Sucks we won’t go back to back but I’ll deal with it.
In all honestly it sucks missing the post season. But Jay will have more time in the portal and should be able to get this right. I believe we have the best coach for LSU right now. Unless this trend continues for 2 more years and I doubt that it will I don’t see Jay going anywhere nor should he.
Dude could stay here for the next 15-20 years. I expect him to make the post season and atleast supers more often than not. I expect to be in Omaha often and I expect him to win 2-3 more in 15-20 years. That’s kind of coach he is. Fair weather fans be dammed
In all honestly it sucks missing the post season. But Jay will have more time in the portal and should be able to get this right. I believe we have the best coach for LSU right now. Unless this trend continues for 2 more years and I doubt that it will I don’t see Jay going anywhere nor should he.
Dude could stay here for the next 15-20 years. I expect him to make the post season and atleast supers more often than not. I expect to be in Omaha often and I expect him to win 2-3 more in 15-20 years. That’s kind of coach he is. Fair weather fans be dammed
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:10 am to champj3
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If you polled all LSU baseball fans in 2022 if they are ok with 2 Championships, 2 Regional appearances on the road and 1 missed playoff in first 5 years for new coach Jay Johnson, the answer is YES!
Finally, a very logic-based post.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:12 am to saturncube21
No rational person thinks Johnson should be fired. But…
This will be only the 4th time in 37 years LSU hasn’t made the NCAA Tournament.
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Not even making a Regional is a historically bad year
This will be only the 4th time in 37 years LSU hasn’t made the NCAA Tournament.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:14 am to Tigernomics
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Unless this trend continues for 2 more years and I doubt that it will I don’t see Jay going anywhere nor should he. Dude could stay here for the next 15-20 years. I expect him to make the post season and atleast supers more often than not. I expect to be in Omaha often and I expect him to win 2-3 more in 15-20 years. That’s kind of coach he is. Fair weather fans be dammed
If one day, 25 years from now, we talk about the Jay Johnson era and say, “we were fricking terrible 6 or 7 years but man when we were good, that fricker got us a title. No other coach in college baseball history will ever touch Jay Johnson’s 9 national championship run”, I’m good with that.
Maybe we’ll be all or nothing, one extreme or the other under JJ. If we are, I’d be thrilled.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:15 am to TDsngumbo
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Finally, a very logic-based post.
It is. By the same token, 2 consecutive years of not making a regional and sub .500 record gets you terminated.
We are in year 1.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:20 am to Geauxldilocks
Jay Johnson will not be fired next year unless it’s for something not related to performance.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:22 am to champj3
I’m slightly confused as to what the point of this post is
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:25 am to champj3
How I see my job as a fan: support the team
How toxic people see their job as a fan: post hateful declarations on public forums. Must be more exaggerated than the other hundreds of threads saying the same thing. Being toxic = helping. Influencing others to think hateful thoughts about college kids = helping.
How toxic people see their job as a fan: post hateful declarations on public forums. Must be more exaggerated than the other hundreds of threads saying the same thing. Being toxic = helping. Influencing others to think hateful thoughts about college kids = helping.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:33 am to Alt26
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This will be only the 4th time in 37 years LSU hasn’t made the NCAA Tournament.
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37 years
Why did you start here?
The NCAA baseball tournament started in 1947. This will be the 79th year they have had it (cancelled once due to COVID). LSU has missed it 42 times. made it 37 times. But they missed the first 38 and 39 of the first 42.
Skip made it 16 of 18 seasons, 3 of his first 5. 5 NCs
Smoke made it 4 of 5 times. 0 NCs
Paul made it 12 of 14 seasons, 3 in his first 5 (Paul was here 15 years but COVID cancelled one year). 1 NC
Jay has made it 4 of 4 seasons so far, but will likely miss this season and be 4 of 5. 2 NC.
I only say likely for this season because I have seen strange things happen in my time, so I'll wait for the corpse to stop twitching before I declare it dead. But nothing I have seen against good competition gives me a lot of hope.
This post was edited on 5/13/26 at 8:11 am
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:48 am to saturncube21
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Not even making a Regional is a historically bad year
Correct, LSU should always be in a regional, at the very least.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:50 am to champj3
What bothers me so much about this year was the evaluation for guys in the portal. We have some players that were on the roster (freshman and couple of players that wound up transferring) that Jay overlooked in favor of some portal additions. How can you look at York and believe he was SEC caliber? What is the evaluation of pitchers from the portal? Many of them were a miss. Simpson was equally as bad. My concern is a repeat of talent (portal) evaluation.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:54 am to mdomingue
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Skip made it 16 of 18 seasons, 3 of his first 5. 5 NCs
Smoke made it 4 of 5 times. 0 NCs
Paul made it 12 of 14 seasons, 3 in his first 5 (Paul was here 15 years but COVID cancelled one year). 1 NC
Jay has made it 4 of 4 seasons so far, but will likely miss this season and be 4 of 5. 1 NC.
So you’re telling me every coach for the last 42 years, including Skip, had at least 1 dud in their first 5 seasons?
Interesting.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 7:56 am
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:13 am to champj3
So everything is Cope-acetic.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:24 am to markthetiger
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What bothers me so much about this year was the evaluation for guys in the portal.
Time will tell how true this is. I think blaming the transfers is a cop out. When most of our returning players did not improve, what makes everyone think the portal guys should have come in and succeeded? There is more wrong with this team than we are aware of right now. Maybe we will never know what caused this collapse. This team may not have natty-level talent, but its talent level is absolutely better than 9-18 in the SEC.
Our offense this year is very similar statistically to last year's team and has improved throughout the season. While the defense is bad, it has improved some lately.
Pitching has been bad all year. Something like 7 of our 10 returning pitchers have regressed. And the few pitchers that have gotten better have done so marginally. If someone had told you before the season that the best ERA b/t Cowan, Evans, Guidry, & Williams was 4.97 and the worst was 8.10, would you have believed them?
Jay is a great coach. He will get it fixed. But coaching and development should shoulder a lot of the blame for this team.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:37 am to champj3
I’m a bigger Jay Johnson defender than Maureen Johnson, and his job this season was unacceptable.
It’s ok to admit that, he knows it. This is also not some middling SEC baseball program that makes Rev share and NIL decisions to save money one season and go all out the next.
In no world should an LSU baseball team miss a tournament of 64 teams (or really 40-45 when you consider auto-bids). He’s earned a break this year, he’s not on the hot seat. Everyone knows this. Talking about him losing his job is dumb.
It’s ok to admit that, he knows it. This is also not some middling SEC baseball program that makes Rev share and NIL decisions to save money one season and go all out the next.
In no world should an LSU baseball team miss a tournament of 64 teams (or really 40-45 when you consider auto-bids). He’s earned a break this year, he’s not on the hot seat. Everyone knows this. Talking about him losing his job is dumb.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:38 am to RB10
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So you’re telling me every coach for the last 42 years, including Skip, had at least 1 dud in their first 5 seasons?
Yeah, but Skip's came into a much worse situation. He had been to two CWS before his second dud (year 5). Then no duds for 13 straight
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:39 am to champj3
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LSU baseball only measures NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS as a good year.
We need to re-adjust our expectations. In the era of NIL, resources will be diverted to 'revenue earning' sports. Baseball isn't one of them. Less resources will lead to less production on the field.
How much are we paying our football coach and our basketball coach and how many natty have they won't together. If either one were to win a natty they would be an instant hallnof famer.
Now do our baseball coach. The question is not how many natty will he win. He has already won 2. That is more than any head coach in LSU history save Skip. Now ask how much he gets paid. Then compare it to how much you are paying in buyouts for your previous football and basketball coach.
In this era great baseball coaches should be in the MLB and he is truly way better than his appreciation level at LSU.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:39 am to mdomingue
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Yeah, but Skip's came into a much worse situation. He had been to two CWS before his second dud (year 5). Then no duds for 13 straight
Obviously. Skip is also the golden standard that every coach wants to reach. That being the expectation is a bit ridiculous.
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