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re: So what is realistic for MBB?

Posted on 11/4/26 at 5:42 am to
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/4/26 at 5:42 am to
It's year one. While I think this is a tournament team, I also heavily lean toward the Sunshine Pumper side (by heavily lean, I may be voted president shortly ). But if I rein that in a little, I see the expectation this season as at least being in the conversation as a bubble team in the last week of the regular season. I'd like to see at least 1 SEC tournament win.

My hopes beyond expectations are a deep run in the SEC tournament and at least 1 win in the NCAA tournament. Nearly irrational me sees a Final Four team

Next season are tournament expectations.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
19694 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 6:47 am to
Upper third of the SEC and 6-10 seed in the tournament.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
19694 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 6:51 am to
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The problem is that he consistently produced the worst seasons in LSU basketball histor


I think what we would see is we'd have some hope early, in at least 3 of the seasons I can remember getting out to some good starts, getting some good wins, but once teams got film on us and adjusted to what we did we never really seemed to be able to adjust back.

Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
44617 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 6:52 am to
This team will make the tournament barring any major injury.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
83711 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 6:54 am to
Sec, finishing 4th-6th in conference
Ncaa, maybe 6-8 seedin tourney

Not sure how anyone can place expectations of anything once in the tourney. Obviously we’d like to win a game or two, but matchups and path dictate that stuff
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 6:56 am
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
50740 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 7:00 am to
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This team will make the tournament barring any major injury.



I agree, but I know I tend to lean extra positive, so I tend to caveat myself early on.
Posted by baytiger11
Member since Jul 2020
2760 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 7:20 am to
What I liked about last night’s game is even when we were up by like 40 late in the second half, Wade was still yelling at the refs (got a technical) and coaching players hard. Yelling at them to get to certain spots.
Big difference from McMahon standing there with his arms crossed.

My takeaway from watching in person was that they are very talented, but still green playing with each other. It’ll take some time to gel, but when they do the ceiling is pretty high. The effort and intensity were there, especially on defense. Like night and day from last year.
Finishing top 1/3 of the sec and making a little noise in the tourney would not surprise me.
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
5645 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 7:36 am to
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Wade was still yelling at the refs (got a technical) and coaching players hard
Couldn't agree more. Thank goodness we have a coach that yells and that you can actually hear.

The team has some talented players, but they still haven't put it together. We saw flashes, but they are still putting it together.

There's a lot to like right now, but if we don't get it together by conference play then we will get rocked by some good teams.
Posted by LSUbasketballfan
Member since Jan 2021
955 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 7:46 am to
Anything less than the round of 32 in the NCAA tournament would be a disappointment.

This team could go a very long way though. Niang’s length and quickness is going to cause big problems for teams bringing the ball up court. Having Dessert and Ruzic in the game together will be a matchup nightmare. Ruzic will likely have shorter guys guarding him most games and he will feast. Add we actually have shooters who can hit the open 3.

It will be a fun year. We’ll learn alot from the Gonzaga and Houston games.
Posted by Redhead57
Member since Dec 2021
511 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 7:56 am to
Be patient. Wait and watch
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
37024 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:02 am to
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It's year one. While I think this is a tournament team, I also heavily lean toward the Sunshine Pumper side (by heavily lean, I may be voted president shortly ).


With the expanded field and the resources Wade has expended to put this roster together, there is NO reason (barring a rash of injuries) this team should not at least make the NCAA Tournament. I give Wade the benefit of the doubt on roster construction and he has a lengthy history of at least reaching the tournament. Anything less would be a big disappointment. And save the "it's year one" preemptive excuse. It's "year one" for a LOT of teams across the country for coaches that have been at the program for several years. That's simply the nature of college basketball in 2026. You build a roster, play it, then flip it again all in the span of 12-15 months.

It was game 1 vs. an overmatched opponent. So any opinion has to be within that context. That said, I like LSU's frontcourt. Niang can be a tremendous defender and wing rebounder. 14 rebounds and 6 steals in 24 minutes against any opponent is really good. His offensive game is not necessarily diverse or refined, but that's ok if he can give you great play on the glass and defensively.

Dessert and Dioubate are a bit more strength than skill IMO. That means they will probably be a bit inconsistent throughout season. However, that size will be necessary vs. major conf. opponents. Their defense and rebounding will have to become more consistent.

I really like Ruzic. He just seems to do everything well and doesn't try to do more than he's capable of. Even if he doesn't start he will play starter's minutes. He and Dent should be a good combo offensively because Ruzic seems to be really good at getting himself in position to score and Dent can deliver the ball.

Dent is not Tremont as a scorer (he's not as good of a shooter as Tremont), but he's the closest thing to Tremont LSU has had since. He'll have to be the engine of the offense. Overall, the guard play is something to watch. Dent, Clarke, Brashir, Ugochukwu are all talented, but they will have to be consistent. Brashir is a one-trick pony. He's there to make 3's and not much else. Wade will be expecting him to make at least 4-5 per game. Ugochukwu's offense will probably come and go. But if he can be consistent defensively that, combined with Niang, could make LSU a solid defensive team.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21983 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:13 am to
Lsu is #16 on EM. If they stay healthy and Dent & Clark remain eligible, then the sky is the limit for this team.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
14223 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:17 am to
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tournament should be the floor of expectations


Would be great, but 18-20 wins, close to .500 in SEC, and at least competitive in most games would be a huge step in the right direction
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
43498 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:18 am to
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In the SEC, NCAA, tournament etc? What is the ceiling




quote:

expectation?

Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43622 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:22 am to
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Would be great, but 18-20 wins, close to .500 in SEC, and at least competitive in most games would be a huge step in the right direction


With our schedule and the added size of the tournament field 18-20 wins and close to .500 in SEC will get us into the tournament.


Our current KenPom is 34th which will definitely get us into the tournament. It has us projected to go 19-13 and 8-10 in conference. That is about the expectation at this point IMO.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 8:24 am
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
27333 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:29 am to
I know it was LSUNO and we will have to gel as a team but I don’t think this team losses ten conference games.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
64941 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:32 am to
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I think making the tournament should be the floor of expectations



nah

The tournament seems like a reasonable, optimistic view.

You can only find out so much against a team like UNO. We will know more in a few weeks.

If I had to guess right now I'd say about .500 in SEC, in the tournament.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
292669 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:32 am to
They are old and they are talented. I am mostly curious to see the hierarchy in close games, and how they are coached. This team with RJ Luis could have won the SEC. But I could see a 5-8 seed without him, as is.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 10:27 am
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
50740 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:33 am to
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It was game 1 vs. an overmatched opponent. So any opinion has to be within that context. That said, I like LSU's frontcourt. Niang can be a tremendous defender and wing rebounder. 14 rebounds and 6 steals in 24 minutes against any opponent is really good. His offensive game is not necessarily diverse or refined, but that's ok if he can give you great play on the glass and defensively.


100% Agree

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Dessert and Dioubate are a bit more strength than skill IMO. That means they will probably be a bit inconsistent throughout season. However, that size will be necessary vs. major conf. opponents. Their defense and rebounding will have to become more consistent.



Also true.

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I really like Ruzic. He just seems to do everything well and doesn't try to do more than he's capable of. Even if he doesn't start he will play starter's minutes. He and Dent should be a good combo offensively because Ruzic seems to be really good at getting himself in position to score and Dent can deliver the ball.

Dent is not Tremont as a scorer (he's not as good of a shooter as Tremont), but he's the closest thing to Tremont LSU has had since. He'll have to be the engine of the offense. Overall, the guard play is something to watch. Dent, Clarke, Brashir, Ugochukwu are all talented, but they will have to be consistent. Brashir is a one-trick pony. He's there to make 3's and not much else. Wade will be expecting him to make at least 4-5 per game. Ugochukwu's offense will probably come and go. But if he can be consistent defensively that, combined with Niang, could make LSU a solid defensive team.


Dang it, Alt, are we not gonna argue about anything this season?
Posted by Breadstick Gun
Freeport, FL
Member since Apr 2009
10477 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:00 am to
I’m pretty optimistic and honestly just excited about LSU hoops again. For year one, I think making the NCAA Tournament is a realistic expectation, and anything past that is just lagniappe.

Biggest thing for me is the guard play. I’m not totally sold that it’s good enough yet if we’re talking about making a real run, but we’ll see.
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