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re: So what is realistic for MBB?
Posted on 11/4/26 at 7:14 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
Posted on 11/4/26 at 7:14 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
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Sweet 16 is the floor
You’re an idiot if that is your floor…and that’s coming from someone who is a huge Wade fan and fan of this current mix of players.
I have no expectations for this year. Just glad we are going to have a team that is actually fun to watch again. Starting next year our floor should be making the tournament and that should be the floor every year after that.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 7:14 pm to jamarr
Wrong as usual.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 11/4/26 at 7:46 pm to Madking
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Wrong as usual.
I encourage you to look up his career stats. and even his plus/minus this year shows he isn't a complete player. he is a very very very good high volume 3 point sniper. he doesn't make many turnovers and he is a pretty good passer. he does not much else and his defense contributes very little.
he will be very useful to come off the bench and toss in some triples and open up the court. but he has major defencies.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:23 pm to jamarr
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I encourage you to look up his career stats
Bashir - 13.2ppg, career best avg of 20.1ppg, 5 career 30 point games, 21 career 20+ point games in 3 seasons
Clark - 10.3ppg, career best avg of 13.2ppg, 2 career 30 point games, 9 career 20+ point games in 4 seasons
So one players career best is the other guys career average and the high production consistency isn't even close. I’ve seen the stats and watched both guys play prior to this season. Something you haven’t done. Bashir is a natural 2, he’s bigger, he’s a better shooter with a quicker release and better range, he’s better at creating his own shot, has a better mid range game and has the higher rate of consistent scoring. Hes a scorer which is what the first group needs. Clark is a combo guard that’s more of a 1 than a 2. He’s a spot up guy with less range, he’s smaller, he doesn’t create in the mid range. He’s not a natural scorer. Doesn’t mean he’s not a good player, we’re just almost surely better off with a real 2 than with two point guards on the 1st unit and zero with the 2nd.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:53 pm to jamarr
It’s not a rejection of Clark, I’ll leave that stuff to you, it’s about the structure of the rotation. We couldn’t tell a lot because UNO was so outgunned but if you look at how they defended the first unit, they really packed it in and gave us the perimeter. Better teams are going to do the same thing but they’ll be able to punch back, then what? You can’t start off every big matchup with a scoring slump or the threat of a drought because you like the higher rated recruit. And again using him as a 6th man and backup PG also helps Ugo, who himself is not a PG and works better as a slasher. So you’re killing 2 birds with one stone.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:36 pm to Madking
May have already been said in thread but Double-bye heading into SEC tournament (finishing 1-4) was always a goal Wade would allude to in the past and I think it is achievable this year, barring injury.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:58 pm to jamarr
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Bashir is not a multi-level scorer, he is a single level scorer, he shoots threes and he shoots plenty of them
The numbers suggest this is accurate. Last season he had 190 FG attempts. 151 were 3’s (79%). Of his 80 made FGs, 67 were 3’s (84%)
I guess technically he doesn’t just shoot 3’s…but he’s as close to a one-trick-pony as it generally gets
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:03 pm to texastigerr
First step. Make the tournament.
Second step. Have fun and see what happens.
Second step. Have fun and see what happens.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 10:18 pm to Alt26
Prior to his injury Bashir averaged 4.2 mid range jumpers per game. His one full year starting he took 10.1 threes per game and 7.8 twos per game.
Clark’s career average prior to this year was 1.5 mid range jumpers per game and his highest 2pt FG per game average for a season was 6 per game.
Clark’s career average prior to this year was 1.5 mid range jumpers per game and his highest 2pt FG per game average for a season was 6 per game.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 11/4/26 at 11:30 pm to Madking
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His one full year starting he took 10.1 threes per game and 7.8 twos per game.
at Monmouth and his 2 point percentage was worse than his 3 PT.
he is a 3 point shooter, not a three level scorer. firing up 2 point shots at an awful percent at a tiny school does not a 3 level scorer make
he’s as close to a one-trick-pony as it generally gets
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 11/4/26 at 11:35 pm to Madking
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I’ve seen the stats and watched both guys play prior to this season. Something you haven’t done
please try to make a data-based point and not speculate about what I have done. don't make it personal and destroy threads like always.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 11:41 pm to Madking
Posted on 11/4/26 at 11:43 pm to jamarr
You continue trying to move the goalpost as you’re a known troll but the fact is you said he couldn’t do things he’s done and done more than the alternative. As usual you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 11:43 pm to jamarr
0/10 troll or maybe you’re just retarded
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 11/4/26 at 11:59 pm to Madking
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Ugo, who himself is not a PG and works better as a slasher.
incorrect.
will wade knows he is a PG and has the ability to run the offense:
“His ability to run the offense and shoot well over 40 percent from distance will be an asset to the LSU Basketball program moving forward.” - will wade
LINK
he is repeatedly listed as PG including by local media:
LINK
and by 247
LINK
This post was edited on 11/5/26 at 12:02 am
Posted on 11/5/26 at 12:01 am to jamarr
Too bad for you we’ve seen him play. Now piss off troll
This post was edited on 11/5/26 at 12:01 am
Posted on 11/5/26 at 7:52 am to Madking
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Prior to his injury Bashir averaged 4.2 mid range jumpers per game. His one full year starting he took 10.1 threes per game and 7.8 twos per game.
Clark’s career average prior to this year was 1.5 mid range jumpers per game and his highest 2pt FG per game average for a season was 6 per game.
That may be true. But last year 80% of his shots and makes were from 3, and in limited action this season (including the exhibition games) that trend is continuing. He has 51 total FG attempts. 41 are 3's (80%). He's made 19 FGs this season. 14 have been 3's (74%)
Maybe he can score at all levels, but it seems pretty clear that the staff last year and this year see him as (almost) exclusively a 3 point shooter.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:04 am to jamarr
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he is a 3 point shooter, not a three level scorer. firing up 2 point shots at an awful percent at a tiny school does not a 3 level scorer make
And that's fine. This team doesn't need him to be a ball handler and get penetration. The main point to consider is that Bashir is a terrible defender. That's why Clark will get a majority of the minutes at the 2.
My preseason expectations for minutes:
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PG Dent: 35 min/g
SG Clark: 25 min/g
SF Niang: 30 min/g
SF Dioubate: 20 min/g
C Dessert: 25 min/g
Ruzic: 25 min/g
Bashir: 15 min/g
Ugo: 15 min/g
Levy/Nunez/Pearson/Dent: 10 min/g
After 1 game, I lean to bumping Dessert down to 20 mpg. With those 5 minutes split when LSU goes 3 guards between Dent/Clark/Bashir/Ugo. Still think the rest of the splits seem right.
This post was edited on 11/5/26 at 8:11 am
Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:28 am to KamaCausey_LSU
Dessert won’t be able to play 25 minutes without fouling out
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