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re: So we finished 27th in the country in total offense, and 56th in defense
Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:19 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:19 pm to SidewalkTiger
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The majority of CFB runs on 2nd and long, the fact that our fanbase believes this is a Sloan thing is a huge indictment on the intelligence of the fanbase.
Agreed. The issue wasn’t that we tried to run on 2nd down; it was that the running game wasn’t productive. If we were picking up 5 yards running on 2nd & 10 nobody would even think about it. But diagnosing the problems with our running game is a much more complicated and nuanced discussion than simply saying “why do we always run on 2nd down?” (When, in fact, we passed like 1.5x as much as we ran on 2nd.)
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:25 pm to luciouslou
You do realize in one year he jumped our defense up by like 30 something spots right?
Considering he was still working with many of the same players as the previous year, that’s a pretty damn good accomplishment.
Considering he was still working with many of the same players as the previous year, that’s a pretty damn good accomplishment.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:29 pm to luciouslou
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I'll give you that. Aranda was so overrated
Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:30 pm to luciouslou
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and that baker is some genius that is going to put it together with all these new players.
I’m just curious, what would have been an acceptable improvement for a first year DC installing a new scheme with new players and terrible secondary depth?
What would the rant would like to have seen that would have been realistic?
IMO, going from 130th in total defense to 56th in once season is a fantastic trend. Was he supposed to be top 10? Was that the expectation?
Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:33 pm to docTQ4
I will add this. We have really good running backs. But this offensive line did not live up to the hype. Could pass protect most of the time but couldn't run block at all. And this entire defensive staff was in it's first season.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:42 pm to LSUSkip
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Sloan just needs a running game to work with. He'll be fine. He wasn't working with the caliber of receivers as the years prior, either.
Slaon needs a mentor. Bring in an old OC to help him grow. You only do this if you feel Sloan's QB coach acumen outweighs his OC inexperience.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 11:01 pm to luciouslou
More importantly, will a win over Baylor sneak us into the season ending top 25?
Posted on 12/29/24 at 11:07 pm to luciouslou
They were 54th in scoring offense and 56th in scoring defense. The offense moved the ball well, but they left a lot of points on the table. They were 98th in red zone TD% on offense. That’s where a lot of the criticism for Sloan comes in.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 5:56 am to luciouslou
I think most believe that the defense overachieved with the talent at hand - especially after losing perhaps our two most talented defenders before the year even started - and that the offense underachieved this past season.
I for one believe this.
I for one believe this.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:25 am to luciouslou
Lou I got bad news, you are retarded.
The offense under performed with what it had returning and the D made leaps and bounds better after what house did.
The offense under performed with what it had returning and the D made leaps and bounds better after what house did.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 7:50 am to SidewalkTiger
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We simply don't have the personnel to stop an elite runner at quarterback,
And Vandy, OU, and South Florida did? They held Milroe to less than 2 ypc.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 7:56 am
Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:14 am to luciouslou
The problem with our offense this year was in the red zone and stupid penalties. We moved the ball between the 20’s but Sloan’s RZ offense was really bad.
You can argue that’s because our run game sucked (which is falls on Sloan to correct as the OC) or Nuss didn’t like to run the ball. But Sloan had to know these were issues. He could have adjusted our RZ offense but he didn’t…all season long same play calls in the RZ.
You can argue that’s because our run game sucked (which is falls on Sloan to correct as the OC) or Nuss didn’t like to run the ball. But Sloan had to know these were issues. He could have adjusted our RZ offense but he didn’t…all season long same play calls in the RZ.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:23 am to MikeTheTiger71
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They were 54th in scoring offense and 56th in scoring defense. The offense moved the ball well, but they left a lot of points on the table. They were 98th in red zone TD% on offense. That’s where a lot of the criticism for Sloan comes in.
Correct. LSU was 5th in CFB in 3rd down conversions, but 79th overall in red zone conversions and worse for TDs. A big part was being dead last in the SEC in run offense.
The lack of big plays and run offense hurt scoring. Adding some big play threats and Nuss starting to get connections with Hilton may bode well for 25'. Get the run game going next season as well and the offense should see a big bump in scoring.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 9:47 am to Tigerfan1274
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The offense helped the total defense rankings by finishing 12th nationally in time of possession. In yards allowed per play, the defense improved but still finished 88th nationally.
This is why some games were so lob sided. When the offense could sustain drives magically the D gave up fewer pts. When you throw 3 picks on your own 35 yd line, your d is setup to fail. A&M in particular.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 10:08 am to Lester Earl
Whereas most of the offensive players regressed or stayed the same. Nussmeier looked like a freshman rather than a 4th year player with some game experience
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Which Nuss? The good one or the bad one? He was inconsistent. He looked great in half our games and poor in several. Bama definitely rattled him. I hope he grows from that. I am happy to have him back, and think he will have a good year next year, as long as the Oline is adequate.
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Which Nuss? The good one or the bad one? He was inconsistent. He looked great in half our games and poor in several. Bama definitely rattled him. I hope he grows from that. I am happy to have him back, and think he will have a good year next year, as long as the Oline is adequate.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 10:15 am to lostinbr
Over the entire season, we ran the ball 41% of the time on 2nd down.
In the second half of the season, we ran the ball 43% of the time on 2nd down.
In the last 3 games, we ran the ball 39% of the time on 2nd down.
We were nowhere near as run-heavy on 2nd down as people seem to think.
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Have to admit that these stats surprised me. I am in the camp that felt like we ran on 2nd down too often. It felt predictable.
In the second half of the season, we ran the ball 43% of the time on 2nd down.
In the last 3 games, we ran the ball 39% of the time on 2nd down.
We were nowhere near as run-heavy on 2nd down as people seem to think.
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Have to admit that these stats surprised me. I am in the camp that felt like we ran on 2nd down too often. It felt predictable.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 10:18 am to luciouslou
We’re working through a leadership situation. Luckily, a couple of the cancers are not playing in the bowl.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 10:21 am to BigBrod81
Right. A defemsive coach can come up with correct game plan or scheme to slow down or stop what an offense is doing but if the players aren't able to do their part by executing, it's all useless.
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A true statement, but doesn't describe the Bama game. Baker had a bad game. Other teams were able to throttle Milroe much better than us. He made us look like a high school defense. Baker and the players both failed that night.
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A true statement, but doesn't describe the Bama game. Baker had a bad game. Other teams were able to throttle Milroe much better than us. He made us look like a high school defense. Baker and the players both failed that night.
Posted on 12/30/24 at 10:21 am to luciouslou
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I'll give you that. Aranda was so overrated
The type of morons we have posting here...
Posted on 12/30/24 at 10:54 am to luciouslou
Sloan is not a good play caller and has not shown any ability to adjust to the skills and talents of his players.
Sure the OL was more built to pass blocks, but Sloan handicapped the running game with his playcalling. It was even more evident in the red zone where OCs should make their money.
He was poorest by far where it counted the most. Multiple games lost in the second half because he made horrible or no adjustments while the opponents did.
Numbers often lie when looking at them as one offs, as you clearly are. Sloan is a good QB coach and bad play caller. It is okay to admit that.
Sure the OL was more built to pass blocks, but Sloan handicapped the running game with his playcalling. It was even more evident in the red zone where OCs should make their money.
He was poorest by far where it counted the most. Multiple games lost in the second half because he made horrible or no adjustments while the opponents did.
Numbers often lie when looking at them as one offs, as you clearly are. Sloan is a good QB coach and bad play caller. It is okay to admit that.
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